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November 9th, 2001, 11:41 PM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
I downloaded the TDM mod pack which includes AI upgrades for the original races as well as lots of new races and I got my lunch handed to me. So I would say yes, the Ai had improved
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November 10th, 2001, 12:30 AM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
Honestly, I would say either there has been an improvement in the AI or I have just lost all my skills at this game. Last four games I tried to start I Lasted about 20-30 turns before I got my butt handed to me (and I don't think I'm that bad a player). I do 3 homeworld starts on low tech, med cost, hard AI and med AI bonus. So far I have lost a homeworld everytime in about 20-30 turns. In my most recent game I had to resort to mines and ship capture to stay in the game, and then my own modded AI (the Y'Gath) came in with a fleet that could sweep 60+ mines with ease, I was toasted. Now if I could only stay alive for 100 or so turns to see if the AI has improved on how it handles Stellar Manip tech.
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Human existance is all imagination...Reality is no more than a simple agreement among its participants that this is where we shall meet, and these are the rules that we shall abide by.- Kevin McCarthy/David Silva The Family:Special Effects..
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November 10th, 2001, 01:48 AM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
I posted I similar question just a little while ago. Here are my thoughts.
While the hard coded AI seems slightly better, it all boils down to balnce of power(wich planets you can get to first). You can do this with the map editor(more on that in anothor thread, at a later time).
Also there are things you can do to text files that would help the AI. I am currenyly working on a Generic AI. I found a borg ship set with no AI included that I am testing on.
Hope that helps
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November 10th, 2001, 11:14 AM
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Private
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
quote: Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
Have the AI files been changed, or just the EXE?
I'm wondering whether I need to repatch all the AIs for P&N.
I recall that the strategy for satellites and weapon platforms was changed in the files, but otherwise it's all the same.
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November 10th, 2001, 07:05 PM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
Note though, that with the research percentages finally working, the older AIs' research files may not be as efficient as they used to be.
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November 12th, 2001, 06:01 PM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
Hmm... Not as many replies as I had hoped. So, I'll ask this: What is the future of the AI?
Is it doomed to be poor forever due to the openess of the design? It seems here that what is good for the modding is not so good for the playing..
More importantly, is SEIV forever going to be no more than just a space exploration construction set? That would be sad..
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November 13th, 2001, 09:09 AM
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Re: Has the AI improved yet?
The future of the AI depends upon us and what feed back we give Aaron and the AI modders. Right now, the future of AI looks like it did 4 patches ago, ongoing.
What I would like to see is the addition of an Aggression Text file. This file will should be a text base file that can be editted, and modified.
The purpose of the Aggression file would be to simply help the AI to more aggressively determine its course of action during conflicts such as WAR. Read more @ Aggression Thread
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