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October 21st, 2006, 01:47 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
You can only pick them in quick games.The Empires are not available in the new game options.
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October 21st, 2006, 02:44 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
Yep, weird. Sounds like a bug to me. Either a bug, or someone was rushing.
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October 21st, 2006, 03:06 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
Designing your empire builds character! 
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October 22nd, 2006, 12:38 AM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
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Designing your empire builds character!
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And it's going to confuse and frustrate anyone who is playing SE or 4x for the first time. Did someone actually make a conscious decision to not include any default human player empires? And not provide a walkthru creating your first empire in the manual, or a tutorial? Or was it just over looked?
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October 22nd, 2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
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And it's going to confuse and frustrate anyone who is playing SE or 4x for the first time. Did someone actually make a conscious decision to not include any default human player empires? And not provide a walkthru creating your first empire in the manual, or a tutorial? Or was it just over looked?
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There ARE default human empires (at least from the demo, I've been too busy lately to install the full version  ). Use the quickstart, and you can select one of the races to play.
I would say that it would be more confusing for new players to have multiple copies of the 'same' empire that correspond to different starting options. Or more confusing to have one empire file, and have error messages pop up saying the empire is, for example, using too many racial points. Or having pre-made empire files that use the minimum racial points, and new players complain about the AI or multiplayer humans "cheating" by having bonuses that they don't have.
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October 23rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
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Will said: Or having pre-made empire files that use the minimum racial points, and new players complain about the AI or multiplayer humans "cheating" by having bonuses that they don't have.
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I cannot recall anyone making this complaint about the 2000 point empires included in SE IV. Has anybody else heard this?
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October 21st, 2006, 08:28 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
Ragnarok-X said:
Yep, weird. Sounds like a bug to me. Either a bug, or someone was rushing.
Definitely not a bug; there just aren't any default .emp files included with the game. Any .emp file you make can be selected normally.
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October 22nd, 2006, 04:20 AM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
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Ragnarok-X said:
Yep, weird. Sounds like a bug to me. Either a bug, or someone was rushing.
Definitely not a bug; there just aren't any default .emp files included with the game. Any .emp file you make can be selected normally.
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Bug as in uh-i-need-this-game-to-be-released-now-and-cant-add-premade-empires-which-are-standart-these-days.
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October 22nd, 2006, 01:55 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
Even that is not a bug. A lacking feature, yes. But how is it an error in the game code?
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October 22nd, 2006, 03:24 PM
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Re: About the apparent lack of stock empires...
Oh come Fyron. You know what im talking about. Call it bug, or a lacking feature. Its missing, and its an integral part of a game.
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