Re: Balance on small maps
What about Atlantis Living Pillar rush? Or Carnute rush? Or Caelum Temple Guard rush?
Lets compare some simple things. Helhirding Vs EA Ermor' Equite of the Sacred Shroud.
Hel vs Equite
hits: 14 vs 13
prot: 10/15 vs 12/18
morl: 13 vs 13
mag.r.: 14 vs 12
str: 12 vs 11
att: 13 vs 10
def: base 14, total 19 vs base 12, total 17 BEFORE Glamour
move: 3/26 vs 2/22
Vanir also have Stealth +25 and Glamour.
Equites of the Sacred Shroud have Rejuvenation, or heal their afflictions.
Which one is better?
12 vs 20 resources.
75 vs 65 gold.
EA Ermor Principes, with 11 hp/str/att/def, cost 15 gp.
EA Helheim Huskarls, with 13 hp, 11 str, 12 att and base def 13, cost 25 gp. I'm not sure Principes bought with equal amount of gold could stand against Huskarls, even if their equipment gives them the same defence and much better protection. Of course, as recruiting Principes takes more resources, it's rare to see numbers balanced by gold cost. And of course, Vanir Huskarls are only base troops; its Hirdmen Principes should be comparable to.
I'll offer another comparison, Marverni Boar Warriors and Vanheim Vanheres.
Vanhere vs Boar Warrior
hits: 15 vs 14
prot: 12/15 vs 12/15
morl: 15 vs 13
mag.r.:14 vs 10
enc: 6 vs 5
str: 13 vs 12
att: 12/11 vs 11 after ambidext. and weapon penalties
def: 12 vs 11, before glamour
base def: 13 vs 10
move: 2/11 vs 2/10
berserk: +5 vs +3
Vanhere has Stealth +25 and Glamour.
50 gp, 15 res vs 35 gp, 15 res
Boar Warriors have better equipment. Their armor is less encumbering. They have a shield. Their final attack skill is lower than that of a dual-wielding Vanhere. Their defence with a shield is lower than that of a dual-wielding Vanhere.
It's not blesses alone. If it were, Oiorpata rushes and Equite rushes and Boar Warrior rushes would be commonplace. It's Glamour, and Stealth, and superhuman stats, and the fact that these abilities come for just 10-15 more gp. Principe is 15 gold, Hirdman is 30. If Equites and Oiorpata are 65 and 50 gp, Helhirdings should cost more than 75 gp. If Boar Warriors are 35 gp, Vanheres should cost more than 50 gp.
Another interesting comparison would be Equite of the Sacred Shroud against a White Centaur. 65 gp, light lance and better armor against 70 gp and spear and javelin, stealth, berserk, forest survival and mapmove 3, better strengh and better magic resistance. Att, def and morale are identical before berserk. Centaur Warrior's hoof is 0 dam + str, so 13 before and 16 damage after berserk, while Equite's is just 10.
Normal Equites and normal Centaur Warriors cost the same, btw.
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