obat66 Sweden

serg3d · #1 October 25th, 2006, 01:01 PM

Strv 121 and 122 listed as available until 12/1999, though it's still possible to buy them after 1999

Mobhack · #2 October 25th, 2006, 02:30 PM

Trying a quick 30 second search on unit names with Mobhack gives various possibilities.

Which of the 3 different 121s are you looking at? [30,355,357] or which of the 3 different 122s [31,356,358]?.

All different units, with different non-overlapping service dates, but the same name. One does stop in 99, but the others each come into service later. Thus - one can buy these things past 1999.

Cheers
Andy

serg3d · #3 October 25th, 2006, 03:08 PM

Ahh, I see now.

cbreedon · #4 October 28th, 2006, 01:33 PM

Not sure if these have been addressed. I played Sweden 2006 today. It doesn't seem that the Urban Rifle Sec is attached to any formation. Also the 9040/56 doesn't have the carrying capacity to load up the Arm Inf that are assigned to it.

DRG · #5 October 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM

I'll look into that. The two formations that use them end 12/2005 ( both the Urban platoon and the Urban company ) First I'll need to find out if the formations did indeed cease existing at the end of 2005 or not. If no then the formations end date will be adjusted, if yes, then the units end dates will be adjusted

Re:9040/56 I'll dig into that as well. It may be a simple clerical error with the carry capacity or the 9040/56 was assigned the wrong unit class and that version should actually be in another formation. The /56 is armed with Missles the other versions of the 9040 do not carry and right now, without digging deeper I cannot say one way or the other that those missles do or do not reduce the carry capacity of that unit or not. One way or the other both issues will be resolved for the V3 upgrade.

EDIT: It may also be that the 9040 needs their own formation as the one they are included in now is set up for the Pbv 501 and named Mech Inf Pl 501. Notice also that the existing Mech AT Pl 501 ( formation 132 ) ends 12/3003 and the start date for the Strf 9040/56 is January 2004 so when the Strf 9040/56 starts the unit with the infantry ATGM ends effectivly replacing the infantry ATGM teams with the armoured Strf 9040/56. HOWEVER the first thing I need to determine is if the added missles reduce the carry capacity of that vehicle or not. Once I know that it will make figuring out what to do a bit easier

Don

cbreedon · #6 October 29th, 2006, 06:24 PM

I "corrected" the issues on my end... not sure what the real answers are but I made the formation on Urban Infantry dates out to 2020 like the units and added a little capacity to the 9040/56 so that they could hold the infantry.

Anyway just helping out. I feel we are all here to try to make the game as good as we can ....

Koh · #7 March 17th, 2009, 05:04 PM

I was poking around the Swedish OOB and found a few things worth looking into

- Units 186-190 and 203 are ATGM teams, each with only 2 missiles. While possible realistic, this seems highly inconsistent with the practice in other OOBs
- Unit 416 MAS 155 is available from 1/2006, I haven't heard about such artillery systems currently being in use. This could be intended to be the ARCHER artillery system, which is currently not in use either. Perhaps a later availability date, say 2010, would be more fitting.
- Unit 202, Strf 9040/56, I don't believe this configuration is in use. I've heard about a prototype being tested but I believe it was not picked up.

No online sources for these claims I'm afraid, but a few quick searches didn't reveal any info about MAS 155 or Strf 9040/56 being in use.