Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread

PhilD · #1 October 26th, 2006, 02:50 AM

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Gandalf Parker said:
Yes.
A regular pan can be a real pain-in-the-back-provinces for any enemy that doesnt use PD. Just move him around alot and watch the provinces fall. When you take one; crank the taxes to max, buy some PD, recruit locals, generally make it hard to take back and worthless if they do get it back. If you are given time to recuit a local commander then pillage also.

I don't see too many players fall for this more than once, really. It doesn't take too much effort to figure out how much PD you need to beat the Maenads (not much, I'd say), and after that all they need to do is crank PD a little over the minimum in all provinces. You get a free peek at defenders, which isn't useless, but you won't get free provinces anymore.

And even the AI does build a little PD, right?

paradoxharbinger · #2 October 26th, 2006, 07:33 AM

but unrest would keep getting driven up due to constant attacks

Gandalf Parker · #3 October 26th, 2006, 10:20 AM

And in some games I invest multiple Pans. Ive even been known to use my pretender (Lord of the Wild). I was in a 3-pllayer game where my capital and home territories were taken midgame. I survived until endgame by harrassing the #1 player (that took me out) until the other guy could get up an army and sweep in. It might not have been a winning strategy, but it was a game-affecting one. (vengeance sucks, huh?)

It might just be because of the way I play but I find Pangaea to be massively useful as an ally. Flying scouts (quick reports on everyones location), stealth armies (able to move thru your partners territories), able to trade off mages with major support abilities, lots of tactics for harrassing and reporting. But like I said, I prefer playing a supporting role in an alliance so it might just be my viewpoint.

Valandil · #4 October 27th, 2006, 12:02 AM

Headless hoburg assassin?

Action · #5 October 30th, 2006, 02:01 PM

How would you guys use a mummy with 28 precision and 4 levels of holy (not unholy).

Prophet (Bakemono General) got killed after 40 turns in the hall of fame with heroic precision and brought back as a mummy and reprophetized (+1 holy).

I stuck him with a bunch of wights and unfrozen (cold and disease immune) and gave him a winter bringer (falling frost wand) and sword of injustice (for the automatic protection of the sepulchure), and just have him stand back and spam 28 precision falling frosts on my enemies.

But it sorta seems like a waste, anyone have a better build for a super high precision unit with a wind of leprosy? Maybe bow of war or thunder bow on fire rear to try and snipe commanders? I tried him with an ethereal crossbow and he didn't really hit as often as you'd think for such a high precision.

Nerfix · #6 October 30th, 2006, 02:07 PM

Bow of War or that Banefire Crossbow. Or Thunder Bow. Does he have high strenght? Ah, only if you could build that Sarlath rod...it would be so fitting for a mummy.

Endoperez · #7 October 30th, 2006, 02:12 PM

The Sarlath rod Nerfix mentions would enable him to cast Banefire.

Action · #8 October 30th, 2006, 02:16 PM

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Nerfix said:
Does he have high strenght?

only 20

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Ah, only if you could build that Sarlath rod...it would be so fitting for a mummy.

What is that? It's not letting me wish for it

NTJedi · #9 October 30th, 2006, 02:17 PM

Well the holy_4 and high precision would make him a great killer of undead units... not sure if any of your opponents are using undead. An item to increase his penetration would help too.

The winter bringer is a good setup, but you may want to pass that item to another commander you want entering the hall of fame. When you switch I would advise having the mummy use the bow of war with 'fire at archers' command.

Is this a multiplayer game or singleplayer game... what nations are you fighting? Any nations have their large pretenders walking around?

Action · #10 October 30th, 2006, 02:31 PM

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NTJedi said:
Is this a multiplayer game or singleplayer game... what nations are you fighting? Any nations have their large pretenders walking around?

Single player, mighty AIs, but they're all a lot smaller than me now, so I'm just sort of playing around with the end game stuff to learn a bit. Haven't seen any large combat pretenders really.

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Nerfix said:
Ah, it's called Sceptre of Corruption. Has it's drawbacks though, notably it curses the wielder and gives a slight chance of horror mark.

Ahh thanks I'll try it out.

I appreciate the suggestions guys.