Eater of the Dead

quantum_mechani · #1 October 26th, 2006, 06:54 PM

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Still, such things are pretty rare (particularly for a specific spell) and are unlikely to have the same impact on a game as being able to spend astrals on eater of the dead vs. if you had no other astral summons.

Ether Gate is 90 gems, but it's easier to cast (conjuration_6 instead of conjuration_8) and you recieve some very powerful magic units and a powerful commander with magic paths.
I will gladly send one of my Ether Gate armies(90_gems) against two of your eater of the deads(100_gems).

That's a good point, it's a pretty unlikely occurance you would have the gems for eater of the dead and not ether gate. So that narrows it's margin of usefulness even further. I still rank the other spells as more useless, but not by a lot...

Oh, and yes, raven's feast at 5 gems is another excellent canidate.

NTJedi · #2 October 26th, 2006, 07:04 PM

Ravens feast should be moved as a level_1 spell where any level_2 air mage could cast with a cost of 3 air gems. Upon first reading ravens feast it sounds like a very useful spell.

Is it safe to say that "eater of the dead" is the worst summoning spell? Based on it's gem cost(50_astral), the difficulty casting the spell(4D/4S plus ConJ_8) and the creature which appears I would title "eater of the dead" as the worst summoning spell.

KissBlade · #3 October 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM

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NTJedi said:
Ravens feast should be moved as a level_1 spell where any level_2 air mage could cast with a cost of 3 air gems. Upon first reading ravens feast it sounds like a very useful spell.

Is it safe to say that "eater of the dead" is the worst summoning spell? Based on it's gem cost(50_astral), the difficulty casting the spell(4D/4S plus ConJ_8) and the creature which appears I would title "eater of the dead" as the worst summoning spell.

Personally I don't even find Aquatic summons like Kraken worth the mage time ... that and I know there's some more crappy summons running around. Onis come to mind. =)

Forrest · #4 October 27th, 2006, 05:53 AM

This is a missed opportunity. Think of it.

A summons that becomes almost unstoppable then goes indy and has say a 60% chance to choose to attack your provinces. Leaving lifeless warped provinces in it's wake. Stopping it becomes your top priority but it is so useful that you summon it anyway.

A pain to program but it would be neat.

Forrest · #5 October 27th, 2006, 06:06 AM

It would have to become more powerful when it goes indy. Each province it eats should jack it's effect up. Till it starts destroying the provinces next to it. Gaining defences and attacks as it goes. Eventualy becoming a Indy pretender thug that has a chance to wipe out all life and unlife.

A new victory where the indy becomes God having laid waste to all others.

But a low level summons to start. Fraught with risk.

Can you see a multiplayer game with half a dozen of these eating the players in a unstoppable horror that could have been predicted and stopped if only the few had listened to reason.

I have read too much Lovecraft.

quantum_mechani · #6 October 27th, 2006, 06:13 AM

I should also mention that somewhere along the way it became a unique monster...

So even more reason to beef it up. This thing should give doom horrors a run for their money when it gets Unfettered.

Forrest · #7 October 27th, 2006, 06:26 AM

How about a insanity effect?

Non Holy commanders become useless in the provinces next to it at some point. You need blessed troops to go against it. Maybe protected mages.

A real nightmare that your normal troops run before. A worst case.

Corwin · #8 October 28th, 2006, 12:44 AM

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Forrest said:
It would have to become more powerful when it goes indy. Each province it eats should jack it's effect up. Till it starts destroying the provinces next to it. Gaining defences and attacks as it goes. Eventualy becoming a Indy pretender thug that has a chance to wipe out all life and unlife.

A new victory where the indy becomes God having laid waste to all others.

But a low level summons to start. Fraught with risk.

Can you see a multiplayer game with half a dozen of these eating the players in a unstoppable horror that could have been predicted and stopped if only the few had listened to reason.

I have read too much Lovecraft.

Very nice Forrest.

Final game message "The Eater of the Dead have claimed dominion over ocean, land and the sky. The eternal dusk have descened over the realm. All other beings who were struggling to ascend to godhood were killed and, well..., eaten."