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Old October 29th, 2006, 06:19 AM
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The eater is stronger than two banelords, 50 horsies or 2.5 behemoths. This I guarantee you.
Your guarantee is not so strong... I ran some tests on the eater of the dead. It's stronger than 2 banelords without equipment, but 40 normal archers with no help killed the beast with minor losses(less than 10). Not mentioned, but still an interesting measurement. Viewing the battle I estimate 30 archers could even have won.
Then I tested those 50 undead horsemen you mention which slaughtered the creature... another test revealed even 20 of the undead horsemen easily killed the creature with minor losses(less than 5).

Another weakness of the eater of the undead from my testing revealed that only one of these can exist within a game. If another is summoned then POOF the other vanishes the same as the DJinn. No testing was done on the behemoth.

The creature has been improved from dominions_2 yet my testing rates it's value at only 11 astral.
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Old October 29th, 2006, 11:59 AM
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The eater is stronger than two banelords, 50 horsies or 2.5 behemoths. This I guarantee you.
Your guarantee is not so strong... I ran some tests on the eater of the dead. It's stronger than 2 banelords without equipment, but 40 normal archers with no help killed the beast with minor losses(less than 10). Not mentioned, but still an interesting measurement. Viewing the battle I estimate 30 archers could even have won.
Then I tested those 50 undead horsemen you mention which slaughtered the creature... another test revealed even 20 of the undead horsemen easily killed the creature with minor losses(less than 5).

Another weakness of the eater of the undead from my testing revealed that only one of these can exist within a game. If another is summoned then POOF the other vanishes the same as the DJinn. No testing was done on the behemoth.

The creature has been improved from dominions_2 yet my testing rates it's value at only 11 astral.
I think you should run some tests of undead horsies against some priests since that's what's going to happen to pale riders at that stage of the game ... I didn't mean to put all those units in the arena and say, "ROUND ONE FIGHT!"
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I think you should run some tests of undead horsies against some priests since that's what's going to happen to pale riders at that stage of the game ... I didn't mean to put all those units in the arena and say, "ROUND ONE FIGHT!"
You did not say 50 undead horses verses eater of the dead, 20 militia and 5 priests. Your guarantee was eater of the dead was STRONGER than 50 undead horses... this was WAY wrong. Before you start giving your guarantee I recommend examining your exact words.
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I don't have all the knowledge you guys do, but my first experience with this creature was a real let down. I'll admit I didn't really know what kind of role it was supposed to fill, though. I'll try again after the patch, of course. I wish I could remember what killed it, but it was something surprisingly minor. I remember I sent it into battle with my obelisk pretender by casting stygian paths. The pretender just sat and cast bone grinding and other mean spells, but the eater got killed before the obelisk won the battle.

I agree it could use an aura. Leprosy was a cool suggestion.

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Let it eat a bit first. Pillage your province if you want it to grow faster. It is somewhat broken and lack some of its fun specials, but that is fixed in the patch.
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Let it eat a bit first. Pillage your province if you want it to grow faster. It is somewhat broken and lack some of its fun specials, but that is fixed in the patch.
Well during my last test if another eater of the dead is summoned the original vanishes, that's an achilles heel most other SCs don't have cursing them.
The 50 astral gems is a very steep price for a single unit which will eventually turn independent. Even tho the creature has become more powerful, I doubt it's worth 50 astral gems. I will run some more test battles once the patch is released which will include the larger forms for the eater of the dead.
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So anyone tested it out yet?
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