Just got rolled by AI Neifel. What did I do wrong?

Nerfix · #1 October 29th, 2006, 02:31 PM

Such large Niefel armies do seem...very strange. What was the AI level? Also, Helkarls are better off decked with Stingers or something and sent to melee blessed than having them fiddle around with their pathetic magic. Enough Alteration would allow your Hangadrotts cast Soul Vortex which is a superb buff spell.

Stryke11 · #2 October 29th, 2006, 02:34 PM

I never fielded one Hangadrott. At the beginning, it was cost, and at the end I just didn't think about it. That was likely a mistake

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AI was set to difficult I believe. I started with the max AI's for that map. 8 including me I think.

Gandalf Parker · #3 October 29th, 2006, 03:26 PM

The best "balance" of Dom3 is the rock-paper-scissors balance that some nations have over others. Giants eat ALOT of food so nations with powerful death scales tear them up.

Also a working tactic is to send a huge army to take their castle but just sit outside and rape it. Crank up the taxes, push the dominion, pillage, blood search, and starve them out.

Also in the last couple of games I played, the giants AI didnt use PD. So I was able to slip stealth armies in and harrass his backsides while my non-stealth army chewed up his front line. I switched off between the two keeping his big armies moving back and forth.

Stryke11 · #4 October 29th, 2006, 06:08 PM

While yes, I like Ulm, and playing them is certainly fun for me, I think what I enjoy the most is trying new nations and new ideas I get here on this board and then learn to be more versatile. Dominions is just so full of content that I would feel like I wasn't getting the most out of it if I always played the same nation.

That being said, I'd rather not re-invent the wheel, so before playing a nation I like to read up on strategies you experts have used. That's what influenced me to try a dual bless Helheim in the first place.

Foodstamp · #5 October 29th, 2006, 06:57 PM

A few points about what probably went wrong...

I have found versus the AI, and I imagine versus other players, one army does not cut it.

Your vanguard army sounded fine, but you should have had multiple armies of say 12-20ish helherdings/1-2 vankarls. This gives you a small stealth force with a leader that can cast lightning bolt and bless. I place them on a flank with hold position--->attack rearmost units with the vankarl placed directly in the middle of them scripted to blessing/lightning bolt/lightning bolt/lightning bolt!

As shown by this video clip, giants are no match for lightning bolts!

Btw, when playing helheim there is no scissors/rock/paper if your using F9W9. You are the scissors, the rock, and the paper. Helhirdings are cheap to produce, atm can be recruited in any province with a keep, and they are GODS on the battlefield.

PDF · #6 October 29th, 2006, 07:20 PM

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Stryke11 said:
While yes, I like Ulm, and playing them is certainly fun for me, I think what I enjoy the most is trying new nations and new ideas I get here on this board and then learn to be more versatile. Dominions is just so full of content that I would feel like I wasn't getting the most out of it if I always played the same nation.

That being said, I'd rather not re-invent the wheel, so before playing a nation I like to read up on strategies you experts have used. That's what influenced me to try a dual bless Helheim in the first place.

Well, the problem is that Dual9-bless are high-power setup not that useful to "learn" strategies because they'll force you to poor scales and will not give you a pretender that will "come along" nicely with your nation.