The neo-standard thread- Standardising additional hull sizes.

[dogscoff]

WOAH! Chewy, I think you are missing an important point here. If a mod wants to comply with the neo-standard, it doesn't *have* to use all the images if it doesn't want to. That would mean all mods having the same set of hulls, which would defeat the whole object of modding (variety.)

The point of the neo-standard is to make some extra images available to modders. They are free to use some or all of them as they feel appropriate.

Phoenix: here's a quote from the explanation page of the neostandard site:

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We welcome input and co-operation from any modders and shipset creators. This standard can only
be only as good as the mods and shipsets that participate. Taking part is easy:

If you are creating or maintaining a mod,
take a look at your vehiclesize.txt file. Are there any non-standard hull sizes in there that could be represented by the images described in the table on the main page?

If so, make the appropriate changes to that file and save it to neovehiclesize.txt in your mod's main directory. Leave your original vehiclesize.txt as it is.

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Please keep us updated=-)

Hadrian: D'oh! That's the tiny carrier, right? Never mind, I'm sure the extra image will come in handy anyway. I'll have to change the tables to reflect the fact that it isn't currently used by your mod.

Everyone else: I'll try to update the html and upload the pages tomorrow evening: I'll be hosting and linking to the Vandron, updating the tables to include the tech mod, and I'm sure I'll find other changes to make as well=-)

[chewy027]

Sorry if I came acroos that way. I only ment to give him the specs for the neo classes. I thought he wanted to add new techs for the neo classes which is why i said what i did. No problem

[disabled]

Actually, it just occured to me you could combine the existing ships in a weird form of kitbashing.

For example, the Converted Carrier is nothing more than a transport with a flight deck on it.

[geoschmo]

quote:

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Version 1.55:
3. Changed - Changed the VehicleSize.txt file so that each vehicle
size has a primary and alternate bitmap.

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[dogscoff]

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I know, this is great. Do you think we could get the neo-generic images included on the Gold CD? Our work then would be done...

[dogscoff]

Yeah, I know. The neo generic images are nearly done. (Andres has finished all his, I've hardly started mine- no time=-(

If they could be included into the CD's generic generic directory, then nothing else would have to be done.

In fact, with the new "secondary image" function, generic images aren't even needed at all. Mods can just default to another image within the race's shipset if the first choice isn't available. As long as modders are careful to always default to a (old)standard image, there will never be any need to fall back on the generics.

That said, it would be nice to get the generics in there anyway, just in case.

It's still worth having compiled the neo-list too, because shipset creators and modders can still use it for greater cross-compatibility.

I can probably take the neo-standard website down though.

[disabled]

Not everyone will be able to upgrade to the SE4 Gold or will want to.

[dogscoff]

Ooooh... that's true. Hadn't thought of that.

Well, I guess we'll have to carry on as planned then.

[Suicide Junkie]

There is also the advantage of having multiple secondary choices.
In the basic Gold, you'd have to use the basic shipset, if your first choice fails.
With this you can try a whole series of names before falling back on the basics, and, as was said before, we could require only one image to build up shipset.

[disabled]

You know, if this can be finished before the SE4 Gold CD is burned, then it can be added directly into SE4.