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November 8th, 2006, 06:40 PM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
Hmmm, well, I guess that throws out all the buffs spreading across all. I suppose I could switch them all to just do, say, Eagle Eyes, so at least that will go through and they will have higher precision for the Charm/Soul Slay spam.
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November 8th, 2006, 07:58 PM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
You don't need eagle eyes for Soul Slay or Charm really.
Also you've made some very interesting 110g units, with no resistances, so if you get blasted by artillary, or flying screens to disrupt casting, you might be wondering why they are so fragile.
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November 9th, 2006, 05:04 AM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
Most importantly though, if a comunion master casts a spell, each comunion slave takes fatigue equal to their encumberance. So outfits like Rainbow Armor actually bone you if you are a comunion slave.
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November 9th, 2006, 07:19 AM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
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Most importantly though, if a comunion master casts a spell, each comunion slave takes fatigue equal to their encumberance. So outfits like Rainbow Armor actually bone you if you are a comunion slave.
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Rainbow Armor is Enc. 1, +3 Reinvig. The messenger boots would also help with the fatigue. Communion would reduce the extra casting fatigue because of path skill boost. I haven't tried it out yet, but I would think that the +1 casting encumberance would be more than offset by reinvig and reduced casting fatigue. I would think that it would result in less fatigue than there would have been with each casting the spells individually.
Besides, I decided to equip with Rainbow Armor more for the +MR, and if I cast Elemental Fortitude (since Zen tells me now that Eagle Eyes isn't going to really help), then I should have decent coverage in fire/cold/shock/poison/magic resistances. This could be augmented by other mages in the army casting battlefield resistances.
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November 9th, 2006, 09:33 AM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
But it still doesn't work.
It's not just the buffs they won't cast.
Only one will cast the Soul Slay or Charm each round. The others will just sit there and take his fatigue.
More effective to use 9 (or 10) shamen. 8 for slaves and 1 or 2 masters. Equip the masters if you want, but they'll get 3 path boosts from the slaves anyway, so with your gear and without buffs they'd be at 5S6N anyway.
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November 9th, 2006, 12:35 PM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
That's a neat trick.
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November 9th, 2006, 09:20 PM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
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Only one will cast the Soul Slay or Charm each round. The others will just sit there and take his fatigue.
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Aha! I think this is the part I wasn't getting. So if there is a communion, a Master casting a spell would be kind of like the slave casting the spell as well, so the slave cannot do any casting in the same round even if the slave is a "Master" as well. Right?
Oh well, anyway, I was initially hoping that the communion would allow for the "speed buffs" spreading among all the members, and then allow for reduced fatigue for Charm and/or Soul Slay spam. I'll still try it out to be sure, but after I think I'll just have each cast outside of a communion.
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November 20th, 2006, 07:52 AM
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Re: Thug/SC/Assasin builds thread
My endgame prophet SC. I wish-buffed him 'a tad'.

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