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Old November 9th, 2006, 04:45 AM

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Default Re: kwk 38 cannon or machinegun

Hi Claus
I dont have an agenda, I have a valid point.
Lets have a look at your performance maybe you have an agenda?
You lead with a statement that all magazines are loaded with a mix of HE/AP
I ask for the relevant reference, you realise you have been caught out and refuse to give one. You have to be forced to come up with it. We have a look at the reference and find that you have twited the text to suit your purposes. ie your story is a bit different now isnt it, apparently they are only "generally" loaded with a HE/AP mix now. Well this is your opinion only. All we can say conclusively is that in one battalion in one campaign some vehicles used this mix when engageing AT guns, a far cry from your original claim. Seems you are prepared to go to some quite extraordinary lengths to "prove" your point.
I am not disputing that these weapons could or did fire bursts as you are well aware. What I am saying is that AFAIK other than increasing the HE hit value, the modeling changes put in place to model bursts consists of throwing 4 out of every 5 rounds out of the hatch before we go into battle. ie no provision has been made for shots wasted in bursts when aquiring a target of for multiple hits within a burst of AP, amongst other things. I am also saying that there is no need to model bursts the weapon is perfectly and accurately modeled if given single shots. Though it is somewhat underrated as once the target is aquired the rounds can be pumped into it fast enough so that the target returns far fewer shots than it receives.
Nor is the 5 round burst any sort of compromise, it is bursts only, the guns ability to fire single shots has been completely removed. A compromise would be what has been sugggested by Smersh, 30 rounds HE, 90 AP.
It would be a simple matter to have no magazine loaded and when a target appears stick the appropriate HE loaded or AP loaded magazine into the gun. This would give you twice the effect against any target other than an AT gun. or maybe you think thats not worth considering? Also the vehicle will often know what sort of target it is to engage before it engages it. ie can load the appropriate magazine.
Best Chuck.
 

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