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November 9th, 2006, 07:26 PM
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Re: Blessed Nations
First of all, I don't play Fire 9 blessing. That's good for Vans, but I think for Niefelheim Water9,Nature9 is A LOT better. Why? Fire weapons are not needed that much against most of the enemies encountered, since my giants got a pretty good strength. The problem with Niefelheim is the COST. It is true that 8 giants and 2 commanders beat your defence forces, but that was a big part of my army. For starters those 8 giants costed 1200 gold. And as it was mentioned earlier I needed some bad scales to achieve that. Without the beforementioned 9 nature bless my giants tend to be NOT cost effective. First of all, they got only 66 hp. And if I don't give them regenerative powers they tend to die, or get a lot of afflictions. The two commanders had only the purpose of blessing the giants, then keeping up with them, and hoping at least one of them survies the battle.
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In this game I learnt two things about Niefelheim. First of all, the need of two commanders, second the fact that negative luck scale can hurt A LOT. It is a lot more annoying then it used to be in Dominions 2. And drain dominion makes my very pricey researchers even less effective, so it will take ages to reach something in magic.
In the pro side, this is the second Dominions 3 game of mine, in the first one I started with an awake SC pretender, and got slaughtered pretty fast. I think the SCs are nerfed a lot. This time I started with an inprisoned one to try it. I was afread of the decision at first, but now it seems it was worth it.
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Kydorias, thanks for accepting my offer, and I'm glad peace was achieved after a missunderstanding. I hope this shows that I am able to make peace, even if my victory is assured . The next year until my pretender will awake will show that I keep my word.
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November 9th, 2006, 07:41 PM
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I figured vanheim was fire/water bless, not neifelheim.
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November 9th, 2006, 08:03 PM
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First of all, I don't play Fire 9 blessing. That's good for Vans, but I think for Niefelheim Water9,Nature9 is A LOT better. Why? Fire weapons are not needed that much against most of the enemies encountered, since my giants got a pretty good strength. The problem with Niefelheim is the COST. It is true that 8 giants and 2 commanders beat your defence forces, but that was a big part of my army. For starters those 8 giants costed 1200 gold. And as it was mentioned earlier I needed some bad scales to achieve that. Without the beforementioned 9 nature bless my giants tend to be NOT cost effective. First of all, they got only 66 hp. And if I don't give them regenerative powers they tend to die, or get a lot of afflictions. The two commanders had only the purpose of blessing the giants, then keeping up with them, and hoping at least one of them survies the battle.
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Should've done a n9 (or less), e4 (or higher) bless for the giants. =)
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November 9th, 2006, 10:48 PM
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KissBlade, great idea, thanks a lot. It makes sense to decrease the fatigue and maybe berserk makes less difference with giants then with other people. And with less magic I could have taken a less destructive dominion. But then again, this was kind of a test game.
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November 10th, 2006, 12:03 AM
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heh actually berserk works pretty well the giants but you save a lot of points from not taking nature that high =). Also keep in mind, giant skinshifters are very very good EA units. Fatigue is also a killer to the giants.
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November 10th, 2006, 12:34 AM
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Pangaea looks to the south, and sees that Neifelheim has declared ownership to the lands that were ceded to us. We consider this nothing less than an act of war upon our nation.
Neifelheim is to move out of the three provinces ceded by Ermor or be removed.
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November 10th, 2006, 12:40 AM
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Thems strong words comming from goat-people
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November 10th, 2006, 01:55 AM
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It is unfortunate that Oceania has declared war upon the nation of C'Tis. The declaration that C'Tis could not expand beyond the provinces around its capital was an unreasonable one. I do not understand why Oceania should be so enraged by C'Tis subjugating independent provinces so close to its own capital.
Know that I have never attacked any of Oceania's provinces and have no desire to do so in the near future. Yet Oceania already mounts assaults upon my provinces. Should this treachery continue, I shall have no choice but to attempt to dislodge Oceania from their footholds on land.
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November 10th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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Pangaea looks to the south, and sees that Neifelheim has declared ownership to the lands that were ceded to us. We consider this nothing less than an act of war upon our nation.
Neifelheim is to move out of the three provinces ceded by Ermor or be removed.
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Your declaration of war gave the best laughter to the Niefel giants since the days when the Rimtursar walked among them.
OOC: I beg your pardon, but if you take a look at the score chart you can notice that last turn I had the bigest number of provinces, now I'm tied with Ulm. My bless strategy is kind of effective as you could deduct from the beforementioned fact. Then I'm allied with Vanheim, one of the other major powers, who has sailing and maybe even more effective bless strategy then what I got. Who could you think that you can win such a war? Really. Looking to the charts reveal that in the best case you got a school at level 3. Chances are - and I don't blame you for that - you where bluffing. Well, it failed. Good luck, you will need it.
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November 10th, 2006, 03:46 PM
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Pangaea has the courage to face evil, no matter the odds. Rather than pick on the weak, and hold hands with another nation while doing it.
I would rather fight you now, seeing how you have no respect for our nation, than sit around and wait for the inevitable. If this means you will drum up the support from the west, then I guess we will be fighting both of you.
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There will be other nooby games, and even if you guys do eliminate me, we really don't stand a chance versus your alliance at any phase of the game.
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Give me a break. Next, Vanheim will be saying that he is winning the game because he went to West Point IRL.
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