Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

[neofit]

Yes I have read that the Balance Mod was supposed to be included in stock. It's just that I feel a bit awkward petitioning for person_1's work to become part of person_2's, without knowing without a doubt that person_1 is still interested at the time of the petition. The request does not come from Kwok nor is the petition hosted on his site, he may already be like "hey sc**w SEV and Aaron too for yelling at me over the phone" or something like that for all I know .

Other than this - yes, I want to play the Balance Mod everytime I start SEV.

[Captain Kwok]

I agree. It would have been nice if someone e-mailed me prior to creating a petition on for the Balance Mod... I would have preferred to continue my e-mail correspondance with Aaron first about the subject rather than resort to an "antagonistic" approach.

[Combat Wombat]

Captain Kwok said:
I agree. It would have been nice if someone e-mailed me prior to creating a petition on for the Balance Mod... I would have preferred to continue my e-mail correspondance with Aaron first about the subject rather than resort to an "antagonistic" approach.

You can keep doing that, none of this has gone to Aaron yet and it was never going to without your direct approval but its good to gauge how interested people are.

[Captain Kwok]

Honestly, I think it's too late for the Balance Mod to replace stock. It really had to be done before SE:V was released. To supplant stock at this point would be unfair to players who like stock, as they would no longer see there version of the game supported. Right now, the Balance Mod is easily available for anyone that wishes to play a different game and as such, both Stock and Balance Mod versions continue to be supported. I think at this point it would probably be best to include the Balance Mod with SE:V as an optional game type. I don't see any advantge on a community level to do otherwise.

[Raapys]

I don't know. Not having it stock makes it somewhat more difficult for people who want to make mods with the Balance mod as a base rather than stock. Also, stock still got major issues with for instance the AI's making crippling pacts with each other and such.

There's a whole lot of people out there who will be 'stuck with stock' and never bother with mods or looking at the game forums, too. If the Balance mod generally holds a higher quality than stock, like it does now( remember what Aaron said about modders doing things he could never have time for or do himself?) that's really too bad for the average SEV player.

I see your points. I just think it'd be worth it.

[Combat Wombat]

Raapys said:
I don't know. Not having it stock makes it somewhat more difficult for people who want to make mods with the Balance mod as a base rather than stock. Also, stock still got major issues with for instance the AI's making crippling pacts with each other and such.

There's a whole lot of people out there who will be 'stuck with stock' and never bother with mods or looking at the game forums, too. If the Balance mod generally holds a higher quality than stock, like it does now( remember what Aaron said about modders doing things he could never have time for or do himself?) that's really too bad for the average SEV player.

I see your points. I just think it'd be worth it.

That is exactly how I feel. 90% of players if not more do not play any mods all they play is stock and the current stock is not good enough for the 90% of players who do not have mods. Also many mods use stock as their base and having such a sad stock will hurt alot of mods. While mods can use the Balance Mod as their base it just doesn't work as well. The ammount of people who like the current stock(who knows why) are far out numbered by the people that would benifit from having Balance Mod become stock.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

[President_Elect_Shang]

Combat Wombat said:
...That is exactly how I feel. 90% of players if not more do not play any mods all they play is stock and the current stock is not good enough for the 90% of players...

I fully agree; in fact that was the very reasoning I had when I signed the petition!

Geez CW that twice in one day I have agreed with you. Did I wake up in an alternate dimension this morning?

[Spoo]

Captain Kwok said:
I agree. It would have been nice if someone e-mailed me prior to creating a petition on for the Balance Mod... I would have preferred to continue my e-mail correspondance with Aaron first about the subject rather than resort to an "antagonistic" approach.

So does that mean you don't want us to sign the petition?