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Old November 18th, 2006, 07:45 AM
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Ironhawk, I apologize, I don't mean the beta testers did not do a good job, I just figured the double income was a last minute addition because it has such a huge impact on the game and it looks like the units were not balanced to compensate.
I understand that the income change wasn't tested any more than the income change of DomII. The terrain change made everything different, and there was much less gold around. The game went to a direction the developers hadn't intended (towards SCs). For the third game, further changes were made.

Unit balance is pretty good. There are few offenders, yes, but it's usually more about RESOURCE, not gold, costs. And even more often it's about the special abilities (Strength of the Spring vs Glamour).

I'm not sure how much I can say, but Awakening mechanic was changed, several times. And consensus was VERY rare. Some of the opinions expressed in the old threads might have changed since, after we've become more familiar with the game. Since I've started spending time on #dominions IRC channel, I've found out that many balance discussions take place, and have taken place, that are barely mentioned here in the forums.

IMO, the developers DO play Dominions, and don't play it any less than majority of the Dominions users (although perhaps less than the majority of the forum-goes here) - but they don't play blitzes, where balance problems are QUICKLY noticed, OFTEN mentioned. If it takes two games to understand that there's a balance problem, it will take at least a couple of moths of normal play.
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Default Re: Nation builds to smash EA Heims in teh phace.

If its their dominion your worried about then dominion 10 abysia is probably the way to go. To my suprise i found (about 30 seconds ago) that you can take a dual bless, dominion 10 abysia without going too badly on your scales with this:

Scorpion King
Dominion 10
Imprisoned
F9E9
Order 2
Prod 1
Heat 3
Death 3(try to use your anointed of rhuax to avoid age problems)
Misfortune 2
Drain 2

This will give you fire resistant (immune to that evil bless), 21 prot(nearly immune to helhirdling attacks, berserk vans and strong niefels would cause damage), almost never tiring (enc6 reinvig 4) sacreds with 2 attack 18 flaming morning stars(thats taking weapon penalties into consideration) at strength 19 (so a total of 25 with the morning stars damage). They also have a fireshield (6ap damage) and +3 berserk, these are truely evil creatures (and the reinvig is very useful on your mages)
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2 attack 18 flaming morning stars(thats taking weapon penalties into consideration)
They get more attack and strength in hot lands as well.

Death bless might affect damage taken from the Fire Shield. It's been mentioned a few times. If it DOES work, Death bless is very nasty for EA Abysia.
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Old November 18th, 2006, 08:40 AM

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The attack and strength also took into account heat 3, i forgot to mention that. If fireshield does work with death bless then that is just evil, e9n4d4+ burning ones could just walk into combat and stand there, attacks bouncing off their armour and crippling the attackers.
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Shovah32 said:If fireshield does work with death bless then that is just evil, e9n4d4+ burning ones could just walk into combat and stand there, attacks bouncing off their armour and crippling the attackers.
They are very awsome. Will beat most things at similar gold cost... resource cost is a differnt matter, you'll be hugely outnumbered and tired in huge battles.

In comparison, white centaurs are easier to dominate the early game with because 10 white centaurs cost less reources than 3 Burning ones, and are also faster on the map.
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Default Re: Nation builds to smash EA Heims in teh phace.

I know they are awesome, im playing EA abysia in the newbie game (not with that bless based strat but still...)
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