SE5 - 1.17 Patch Out

Captain Kwok · #1 November 23rd, 2006, 10:14 PM

The AI slowdown is really caused by AI pathing calculations or combats - not really it's actually thinking.

Elsemeravin · #2 November 24th, 2006, 04:09 AM

Am I right to think that Armor ability is flawed in the sense that it is considered only when the component is actually on an Armor slot ?

I tried an Armor component on the outter slot but the damagetype does not seems to apply.
I'm seen SJ using such armors in outter slot but I don't remember him using the damagetype for it (like damage penetration 50%).

Any idea ?

Fyron · #3 November 24th, 2006, 05:27 AM

SJ's armor in GGMod is leaky; it is not meant to have armor ability.

Suicide Junkie · #4 November 24th, 2006, 11:04 AM

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Imperator Fyron said:
SJ's armor in GGMod is leaky; it is not meant to have armor ability.

Just a technical note:
I think it may still actually have the ability, it just dosen't do anything since the components aren't armor by not being in the armor slot...

I left it there because the components are working as intended, and I got distracted.
Now, its just something to tidy up in the next revision.

The directional armor is technically internals, while the leaky shields I plan to add will be technically armor. I plan to not use the game's shield mechanics at all.

Elsemeravin · #5 November 24th, 2006, 04:33 PM

So do you agree that you cannot do directional leaky armor ?
(As I intended...)

Fyron · #6 November 24th, 2006, 05:26 PM

Depends on your definition of leaky. Traditionally, "leaky" means a component with no armor ability.

Elsemeravin · #7 November 24th, 2006, 05:45 PM

I would consider that "leaky" means that some part of the damage go through, some hit the armor.

For example a steel plate on the left of the ship would take damage from perforating bullet comming its way (in outter hull so directional), but would not stop it completely, and some damage would go through to internal (maybe 50%).

It would be interesting to have the damageType.txt settings to apply to "armor" composant (meaning the one with armor ability) instead of "Armor" slot only, don't you think ?

Elsemeravin · #8 November 24th, 2006, 05:51 PM

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Suicide Junkie said:

The directional armor is technically internals, while the leaky shields I plan to add will be technically armor. I plan to not use the game's shield mechanics at all.

I agree that the actual "Armor" slot is not interesting for real armor. I plan to use it for whole ship specifics only (like radioactive treatment reducing beam damage, or rubber isolation from electric damage or the like). The same way the Inner Hull component are not logical and I plan to use them only for sizeless/structureless components such as computer programs, crew training and such, which would be destroyed once there is nothing left.

But I really consider a pitty not to be able to use the damagetype setting, which has a big potential in my opinion, for Outter Hull "Armor".