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RamsHead · #1 November 24th, 2006, 12:29 AM

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I had no idea that kailasa was at war with you at the time, honestly. It took me a long time to find a province with scouts and by the time I found one I had already started my war with kailasa. You were just a victim of bad timing.

I have trouble believing this, as it was stated in this thread that Kailasa and I were at war. Oh, and you didn't think I would notice the whole "Helheim's excuses" as the title? What excuses have I made? I am not the one attacking someone.

ooc- Didn't you have something about you and I both attacking the Kailasan capital in the post, and that I didn't just hand it to you? Well of course I didn't! Did I not deserve something for my troubles? I guess your greed cancels out logic?

ic- Even if I would give you the benefit of the doubt, that still doesn't justify T'ien Ch'i's attack. They attacked me to destroy me and that is all. There is no protection of Ulm involved in the matter, because I don't pose a threat to you! At least when I attacked, I didn't try to hide my motives.

RamsHead · #2 November 24th, 2006, 01:04 AM

With regard to your message, I want my staff of storms!

AdrianP · #3 November 24th, 2006, 02:01 AM

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I have trouble believing this, as it was stated in this thread that Kailasa and I were at war. Oh, and you didn't think I would notice the whole "Helheim's excuses" as the title? What excuses have I made? I am not the one attacking someone.

ooc- Didn't you have something about you and I both attacking the Kailasan capital in the post, and that I didn't just hand it to you? Well of course I didn't! Did I not deserve something for my troubles? I guess your greed cancels out logic?

I tend towards playing the game and not so much the drama so I rarely bother to read most posts here. Though I admit I am reading more often as the game matures.

There is no logic that would validate your childish claims of just deserts in regard to the capitol. This is a fantasy wargame where just deserts play little role in it . The strong persevere, the weak perish. You misplayed your hand both diplomatically and militarily and whining about isn't going to make it better.

Foodstamp · #4 November 24th, 2006, 02:11 AM

AdrianP,

The posting on this thread has made this game a blast. Lets try not to discourage people from posting. It only takes a few moments to post, and not too long to play a turn, so I doubt that anyone is playing the game any less than you in favor of drama.

AdrianP · #5 November 24th, 2006, 02:33 AM

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Foodstamp said:
AdrianP,

The posting on this thread has made this game a blast. Lets try not to discourage people from posting. It only takes a few moments to post, and not too long to play a turn, so I doubt that anyone is playing the game any less than you in favor of drama.

Eh, That part about drama wasn't meant negatively, just providing some context for ramshead that I didn't take advantage of him.

FrankTrollman · #6 November 24th, 2006, 02:59 AM

Helheim has shown their might. It's... certainly the might of a barbarian nation. Much as we would expect the might of nations who are not in the Middle Kingdom to be.

Fifty units. Not bad exactly, just nothing that the middle kingdom would insult an opponent by bringing to the field.

Honestly, I'm not sure I need to remove them - as is they are pretty much extra Province Defense for the capitol.

The Great Catsby has Spoken.

AdrianP · #7 November 24th, 2006, 06:34 PM

Hurrah! Ulm's valiant forces have successfully destroyed Aeforge, the False God of the Helheim. May Agatha grant him peace.

RamsHead · #8 November 24th, 2006, 09:20 PM

ooc- Well keep in mind that I had ordered the army to retreat, so there really was no fight. Now you might be curious as to why I gave that order, and even if you are not, I am going to tell you anyway.

I knew I wouldn't be able to defeat your forces when they would storm the fort, so I decided that I would have them retreat. After that, I would move them to my capital where I could stand a better chance. Let's just say that the manual has a game crippling mistake. On pages 71 amd 72 it describes the game hosting order. Number 13 says Other Movement including Break Siege. Number 14 says Move Battles ie battles caused by movement. 15 says castle storming. I am almost 100 percent positive that I had put all my commanders on the break siege order. For some reason you and T'ien Ch'i both did your move battles before I did anything, which resulted in my retreating units having nowhere to go. The real question is why? Can anyone think of a reason for this other than a misprint?

FrankTrollman · #9 November 24th, 2006, 11:03 PM

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For some reason you and T'ien Ch'i both did your move battles before I did anything, which resulted in my retreating units having nowhere to go. The real question is why?

Aren't retreating units assigned after Break Siege, Movement, and Sieges?

I think what's happening is not that the relevent units moved before yours did, but that the units moved before your retreating units were assigned.

By the way, your Staff is being made as we speak. It was delayed slightly when Helhirdings attacked our construction park, but everything is working fine now.

The Great Catsby has Spoken.

AdrianP · #10 November 24th, 2006, 11:46 PM

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ooc- Well keep in mind that I had ordered the army to retreat, so there really was no fight. Now you might be curious as to why I gave that order, and even if you are not, I am going to tell you anyway.

Eh, you have clearly underestimated my strategy. I knew you might pull the retreat trick.( I have used it myself against the AI) I also knew you might try to break the seige that turn despite the fact I had no intention of storming just yet. That's why I left behind an army just big enough to rout your God(I didn't even want to kill your god directly anyway), knowing he would die in the retreat. The fact you had set your commanders on retreat just played into my strategy perfectly.