Mindless, lifeless, undead ...

#1 November 27th, 2006, 06:42 PM

I don't actually know if mindless units dissolve without leaderships. Most mindless i can remember right now are also magic or undead.
Lifeless is "undeath light". They're immune to a lot of spells that need some kind of metabolism to work. Poison, disease and miasma effects are three examples.
There are some spells that specifically target one of those three categories (like the all-popular anti-undead spells) or do specifically not target them (like mindblast and mindless units).

Taqwus · #2 November 27th, 2006, 09:24 PM

Mindless dissolve -- not instantly, but they stay in place, skip their turns, and have a chance of taking damage each turn. Depending on their type, they may still be dangerous (for instance, due to aura effects) until they are killed.

Other magic, undead or demon units without appropriate leadership are supposed to rout.

UninspiredName · #3 November 27th, 2006, 11:24 PM

As for the 'fear' question, mindless units have morale 50 so it's unlikely (If not impossible)that they'd flee in the first place.

Lifeless units don't get any protection from Fear, nor does undead. In fact, Vampires are specifically stated as being cowardly.

Agrajag · #4 November 28th, 2006, 07:39 AM

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UninspiredName said:
Lifeless units don't get any protection from Fear, nor does undead. In fact, Vampires are specifically stated as being cowardly.

Then again, immortals never route in friendly dominion

(unless that was changed from dom2)

Cainehill · #5 November 28th, 2006, 12:14 PM

Eh, immortal _commanders_ wouldn't route in friendly dominion, immortal _units_ would. With the massive changes in the morale system (and large quantities of bugs), it wouldn't be surprising if immortal pretenders retreated now.

Agrajag · #6 November 28th, 2006, 02:26 PM

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Cainehill said:

Eh, immortal _commanders_ wouldn't route in friendly dominion, immortal _units_ would.

Huh, interesting, didn't know that :X
If it is so than I think it should be changed

Sheap · #7 November 28th, 2006, 05:39 PM

Immortals of any flavor should never rout in friendly dominion. If they do, I would call it a bug.

Graeme Dice · #8 November 29th, 2006, 08:26 PM

I've seen a vampire count rout in a battle that the other two won, so immortal commanders definetly rout now.