Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

[Andrés]

Thanks.
I'll add your stuff, and upload the mod right after I finish updating the tree to it's new shape.

[Erax]

My playtest game has progressed to the point where I could actually invade a planet, and I've discovered that the stuff I've posted has a few bugs.

The Assault Shuttle hull had a 0 crew quarters requirement, but this had some weird effects: the ship can be built with no CQ, but moves at 1/2 speed (I guess the code that gives ships penalties for battle damage is doing this). If you do give this Shuttle hull a CQ, then it moves faster than it's supposed to.

This means we're back to a 1 minimum CQ requirement for the Assault Shuttle, which in turn means I have to design a 10-kt 'passenger quarters' component so the Shuttle can actually be used to carry something. It could also be a 20-kt 'shuttle cargo bay' that acts as crew quarters too but is less efficient than standard cargo bays, so you'd use them only in small hulls... hmmm... I'll think about it and post the whole cargo thing later.

The other bug is with the troop weapons - I gave infantry weapons 0kt of structure (they're supposed to be weapons, not armor), but when I invaded a planet with 50 Naval Troopers armed with bLaster pistols I got a 'division by zero' error which locked the game. I guess troops can't have a structure of 0 - how obvious.

Here are the corrected values for troop weapon structure :

BLaster Pistol - 1kt
BLaster Rifle - 1kt
Light Repeating BLaster - 1kt
Heavy Repeating bLaster - 2kt
Light BLaster Cannon - 3kt
Heavy BLaster Cannon - 6kt
Dual Light BLaster Cannon - 6kt
Dual Heavy BLaster Cannon - 12kt

I'll let you know if any other bugs come up.

[Phoenix-D]

FYI on the shuttles- you can make a component that has both the bridge and crew quarters ability; that way the CQ doesn't take up any extra space.

Phoenix-D

[Erax]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
FYI on the shuttles- you can make a component that has both the bridge and crew quarters ability; that way the CQ doesn't take up any extra space.

I thought about that, but then what's to stop the Empire from using it (and saving 10kt) on all of its other hull sizes ?

[Andrés]

I knew about the crew quarters, I had added them when I copied the vehicle size and didn't notice the error.
I have already added a small cargo container, so you'll be able to carry troops anyway.
I made droid quarters that are CQ and LS but have to hit penalties.

I didn't know about the 0 damage thing, but most components have the same tonnage and tonnage structure, I see no problem in adding them.
Also your mechanized troops and weapons look terribly small and weak when compared to standard techs. Do we want all troops to be tiny and weak?

[Phoenix-D]

"I thought about that, but then what's to stop the Empire from using it (and saving 10kt) on all of its other hull sizes"

Add another CQ requirment to everything else; problem solved.

[Erax]

Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
I didn't know about the 0 damage thing, but most components have the same tonnage and tonnage structure, I see no problem in adding them.
Also your mechanized troops and weapons look terribly small and weak when compared to standard techs. Do we want all troops to be tiny and weak?

I scaled them so that the AT-AT was as large as a SE IV large troop (20 kt). This equates things at the top end, but perhaps the other SW vehicles do become 'tiny and weak' as a result. Maybe the AT-AT should be 30kt ?

As for weapons, I started with the bLaster pistol having a damage of 1 and 'built up' from there. If you want SW troop weapons to be comparable to SE IV troop weapons, all of their damage values will have to be multiplied by about 2.5.

As a note of interest, 100 light infantry with bLaster pistols (in two waves of 50) were able to defeat 3 planetary militia with 40% losses in my playtest game.