Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?

[Graeme Dice]

Jack_Trowell said:
With early C'tis, you could try using chariots with an order to attack cavalry, trampling vans should be a good way tu hurt them, no ?

Trampling has an attack value of 10, which means that the chariot has to trample the Helhirding about 14 times to kill it as it will only ever be likely to get the failed trample damage of 1.

[tibbs]

Graeme Dice said:

Trampling has an attack value of 10, which means that the chariot has to trample the Helhirding about 14 times to kill it as it will only ever be likely to get the failed trample damage of 1.

In my early era MP game, I kicked Vanheim butt with my Arco chariots. That trample does the 1 point to get rid of their glamour and then they are a lot easier to defeat.

[mivayan]

tibbs said:
In my early era MP game, I kicked Vanheim butt with my Arco chariots. That trample does the 1 point to get rid of their glamour and then they are a lot easier to defeat.

In the *early* era, I can see that working well.

The discussion of EA vanheim (elite medium infantry with glamour) is getting confused with the discussion of EA helheim/MA vanheim/LA Midgard dualbless elite cavalry.

[Jack_Trowell]

Graeme Dice said:

Trampling has an attack value of 10, which means that the chariot has to trample the Helhirding about 14 times to kill it as it will only ever be likely to get the failed trample damage of 1.

Yes but if I remind correctly how glamour works, the first damage done will remove the mirror image, and then you can start doing real damage by other means (archers, etc ...)

Note that even a lone chariot or two, if it get to attack first, can remove the mirror image from several units in one action, and then let the arrows fly ...

[Graeme Dice]

Jack_Trowell said:
Yes but if I remind correctly how glamour works, the first damage done will remove the mirror image, and then you can start doing real damage by other means (archers, etc ...)

They still have a defense of 24 with a W9 bless, so all you're doing is changing the to-hit chance for your attack 10 troops to about 1% from about 0.5%. Try it in a test game against yourself and you'll quickly see how hopelessly onesided the battles are.

Note that even a lone chariot or two, if it get to attack first, can remove the mirror image from several units in one action, and then let the arrows fly ...

So what about the plurality of nations that don't even have archers?