Blood magic nerfed in dom3?

Sheap · #1 December 21st, 2006, 09:43 PM

Ironhawk and Uninspired are right (and much more polite). Reducing to the essentials:

* Gold increased in dom3
* Gems didn't increase in dom3
* Blood hunting equation: gold + time + unrest = slaves

Since gold increased and slaves come from gold, slaves are easier to get relative to other types of gems (but harder to get relative to gold because of unrest).

Thus blood magic got stronger in dom3, not weaker, because it should be compared to other forms of magic - not to recruitable troops. Of course blood got weaker compared to recruitable troops, everything did, no one disputes that.

Huzurdaddi · #2 December 22nd, 2006, 01:19 AM

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Sheap said:
Of course blood got weaker compared to recruitable troops, everything did, no one disputes that.

The entire point is that one uses blood *instead* of using recruitable mages/troops. Since to get blood one must *sacrifice* gold. Summons obtained with other gems are *in addition* to troops/mages.

Taqwus · #3 December 22nd, 2006, 01:51 AM

And you spent gold to get those other mages, and to pay them to run around and find sites, and to keep them on the battlefield to cast the battle magic that other paths place far greater reliance on. You also spent money on mages to research spells scattered in up to seven other schools -- and this is more expensive now, since research has been slowed, while blood is much more unified.

Oh, and blood nations will have far fewer expensive mages dying of old age than your average human nation, once they research Boots of Youth.

Endoperez · #4 December 22nd, 2006, 05:37 AM

I agree with Sheap and Valandil - I don't see the problem. Thanks for summing it up so well, I couldn't have done that myself.

However, this discussion raised an interesting point (for a second time in relatively short time): there are no low-level Blood summons for Blood mages/commanders with lots of undead leadership. Would Blood 3 (research), B2 (magic), 21 slaves for a B1 lawyer demon be all right? If he needs a downside, causing some unrest or something would probably be possible. He'd have Undead leadership 40, +5 from Blood.

Valandil · #5 December 23rd, 2006, 05:26 PM

"Would Blood 3 (research), B2 (magic), 21 slaves for a B1 lawyer demon..."

uhhh... Lawyer demon? Like a courtroom lawyer? That's a little odd.

Endoperez · #6 December 23rd, 2006, 06:34 PM

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Valandil said:
"Would Blood 3 (research), B2 (magic), 21 slaves for a B1 lawyer demon..."

uhhh... Lawyer demon? Like a courtroom lawyer? That's a little odd.

Why? One of the Arch Devils, or perhaps it was one of the Heliophagii, is dressed as one. Devil's Advocate, you know... There's been a lawyer-demon in Illwinter games from Conquest of Elysiun II!