Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?

Saxon · #1 December 22nd, 2006, 02:53 AM

Blind in 1000 years? No, vision is too important in our societies, look at computers, driving, reading and so forth. You still get reproductive advantages from vision. I can see a rise in other things, like hereditary diseases controlled by medication, but not loss of vision.

As for the topic, I still argue for a boosting of the price (gold and/or resources) of the units in question. Reducing their numbers retains the flavour and option of using the strategy, but makes massing and rushing with them a bit harder. It is an easy fix technically, addresses both the SP and MP grumbles and does not impact other nations too much. Strangely, I recall a certain developer mentioning that they planned to do just such a thing in an upcoming patch, so why don�t we wait and see how it works out?

Hullu · #2 December 22nd, 2006, 04:14 AM

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In the tortise vs. hare race, humans are the tortise, and we win every time.

What do you base this on?:/ A hare can travel in an hour what takes weeks for a tortoise. Now, if a hare does this every third day the tortoise must live thousands of years to make up for what the hare can travel in it's lifetime. Or do your tortoises live an unlimited amount of years?

No [censored] this is off topic!

Endoperez · #3 December 22nd, 2006, 05:47 AM

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Hullu said:

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In the tortise vs. hare race, humans are the tortise, and we win every time.

What do you base this on?:/ A hare can travel in an hour what takes weeks for a tortoise. Now, if a hare does this every third day the tortoise must live thousands of years to make up for what the hare can travel in it's lifetime. Or do your tortoises live an unlimited amount of years?

No [censored] this is off topic!

Ever heard of Aisopos? Aisopoksen sadut? Kumpi kilpajuoksun voittikaan, j�nis vai kilpikonna?

If Aisopos had been a cook, the tortoise would have been a soup, and the hare cooked in the oven. The order would have stayed the same: slower comes first.

Sheap · #4 December 22nd, 2006, 06:54 AM

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maybe its something to do with blessings?

Yes, the issue is with imprisoned pretenders, which gives so many extra points for blessings, while still maintaining decent scales. The best suggestion I've heard for fixing this is that blessings shouldn't work if your god isn't awake yet (dead is OK).

Hullu · #5 December 22nd, 2006, 07:18 AM

Hrmpf.

krpeters · #6 December 23rd, 2006, 03:35 AM

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Hullu said:

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In the tortise vs. hare race, humans are the tortise, and we win every time.

What do you base this on?:/ A hare can travel in an hour what takes weeks for a tortoise.

I was referring to the Aesop fable, speaking metaphorically...

Valandil · #7 December 23rd, 2006, 05:31 PM

Ooh! Since this way off topic anyway--

The tortoise starts with a lead of a foot.
After a given period of time, the hare, traveling faster than the tortoise, will have made up this lead. But the turtle will have moved forwards, creating a new gap, which must be filled in a given time, after which the tortoise again has move, ad nauseum.

Endoperez · #8 December 23rd, 2006, 06:42 PM

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Valandil said:
Ooh! Since this way off topic anyway--

The tortoise starts with a lead of a foot.
After a given period of time, the hare, traveling faster than the tortoise, will have made up this lead. But the turtle will have moved forwards, creating a new gap, which must be filled in a given time, after which the tortoise again has move, ad nauseum.

Actually, that only works only up to a certain point. You see, you are measuring ever shorter and shorter and shorter amounts of time, and thus, won't actually cover more time of the hare's run than what is needed for the first few leaps. You aren't thinking of what happens once the hare gets to where the tortoise already is, and it will get there - that point is the first one you are ignoring with your time-trick!

Valandil · #9 December 24th, 2006, 10:18 PM

I'm ignoring much more. That is one of Zeno's paradoxes, ancient problems of the greeks.

The problem here is actually a misunderstanding of infinites. The series is actually convergent to 1/0, not 0. I don't really want to go over the math here, but suffice to say that my conclusion is totally wrong.

PhilD · #10 December 25th, 2006, 06:08 AM

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Valandil said:
I'm ignoring much more. That is one of Zeno's paradoxes, ancient problems of the greeks.

The problem here is actually a misunderstanding of infinites. The series is actually convergent to 1/0, not 0. I don't really want to go over the math here, but suffice to say that my conclusion is totally wrong.

I'm really interested in knowing what series is "convergent to 1/0" in the Zeno's paradox story. The way I see it, the time series is simply convergent to a finite, non-zero value, which is exactly the time where the arrow (hare) will catch up with the runner (tortoise).