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Old December 25th, 2006, 01:59 PM

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Default Re: Red Army = most effective force !

In MBT I made the experiance that from the 70s to the early 80s and the massive increase of TI equipment in western forces the Red Army is indeed a formidable force. Though the training level is not too good you get decent hits with your equipment being close to always being the most modern on the battlefield.
Though against massive unsuported tank rushes ATGM (especially TOW) can be a real killer.
I love playing small '78 campaigns with, playing a company of first tier T-80s... It's amazing how the obsolete 90mm and non SABOT 105mm rounds bounce of the forward armor. (Well except those from the British and German guns...)
But well you have loads of arty to deal with that...
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Old December 25th, 2006, 06:01 PM
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"Soviet Army wouldn't have encountered any difficulties in conquering Western Europe in the event of CONVENTIONAL war with NATO."

It depends on the timeframe.In 1979,likely. In 1989, not so much.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 11:01 PM
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It depends on the timeframe.In 1979,likely. In 1989, not so much.
do you mean strictly technically or also considering the political situation of the warsaw pact.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 07:36 AM
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"do you mean strictly technically"

With the caveat that evaluating armies purely on the basis of weapon systems matchup isn't advisable, T-64A vs M60A1 sounds a lot better than T-80B vs M1A1 (for the soviet side, that is).
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sorry, I meant both techniqually and materially(numbers)
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Default Re: Red Army = most effective force !

Red Army was impressive force on paper, but situation on the field would be different. Most of the equipment was just cannon fodder,mayority of tanks used were still T-55,T-62.Later after 1986 they had more T-80B but there were Leopards-2, M1A1 and Challys.
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Thier problems always seemed to be poor build quality, and lack of spares and repairs.

Vehicles were dumped outside in the open and left without maintenance to fester with the snow piling up in winter etc - only a few were actually fired up and used for training or some obsolete vehicles were actually used instead of the actual unit kit for training, so if the baloon actually went up then the conscript crews would have little clue about thier t-72s as they had trained on say T-54.

I recall buying some "Baikal" brand 12 bore shotgun shells back in the 70's. Allegedly for export (or a cunning KGB plan to make Westerners complacent about USSR ammo quality ?? ) - About half the cost of normal shells, but I only bought a few boxes. 2 or 3 misfires out of maybe 4 boxes, the brass started to rust/discolour after a couple of outings, and the fouling in the barrel was bad (no plastic shot cup).

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