Strategy advice wanted

Valandil · #1 December 25th, 2006, 10:38 PM

acashic is 25 gems (!), so unless frequency is very high it often won't pay for itself.

Shovah32 · #2 December 25th, 2006, 10:52 PM

Yea, i tend to only cast it on forest or mountain provinces where i should be finding many sites(and it beats empowering mages to all the paths you dont have

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Meglobob · #3 December 26th, 2006, 06:36 AM

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Valandil said:
acashic is 25 gems (!), so unless frequency is very high it often won't pay for itself.

Great for SP, rubbish for MP.

PDF · #4 December 28th, 2006, 08:48 PM

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Valandil said:
acashic is 25 gems (!), so unless frequency is very high it often won't pay for itself.

Wrong !
In a rather normal setting (50%) you'll find 1-3 sites producing an average of 1.5 gems each, so you'll get 3 gems/turn, refunding you in 10 turns or so...

Endoperez · #5 December 29th, 2006, 02:46 PM

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Valandil said:
acashic is 25 gems (!), so unless frequency is very high it often won't pay for itself.

Wrong !
In a rather normal setting (50%) you'll find 1-3 sites producing an average of 1.5 gems each, so you'll get 3 gems/turn, refunding you in 10 turns or so...

50% is rather normal ONLY for Early Age. And I'm not sure if the default is 45% or 50% even there.

Meglobob · #6 December 29th, 2006, 05:00 PM

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Valandil said:
acashic is 25 gems (!), so unless frequency is very high it often won't pay for itself.

Wrong !
In a rather normal setting (50%) you'll find 1-3 sites producing an average of 1.5 gems each, so you'll get 3 gems/turn, refunding you in 10 turns or so...

50% is rather normal ONLY for Early Age. And I'm not sure if the default is 45% or 50% even there.

45% EA, 40% MA and 35% LA. I personally usually play my SP games with max (70%+ sites), cause they are fun...

Micah · #7 December 29th, 2006, 04:17 PM

You also have to factor in the option of a manual search...if you can find half the paths in a province with a 0-gem local search with your nationals then all of a sudden your refund time has doubled. It depends on the nation you have though...Shinuyama's bakemono mages have something like 10 magic paths they can manually search for, while it'd take Ulm a small army worth of mages to find a level-0 site.

You also need to have conj 5 researched and a really large pile of pearls to make this feasible, since even if all of those sites you're finding with the search produced pearls you'd still need about 150 stockpiled to cast acashic every turn until you were making the 25/turn it's costing you.

-Micah

Edi · #8 December 29th, 2006, 04:50 PM

Uh, you do realize that lv 0 sites are automatically visible? It's lv 1-4 that you have to seach for and effectively only lv 1-3 because there are so few lv 4 sites and almost all of them rare to boot.

Edi

Micah · #9 December 29th, 2006, 04:56 PM

Yes, it was hyperbole, along with the 9th and 10th path of magic that those shinu mages are looking for. I guess some people may have been genuinely confused though if they didn't know the game that well, so probably a fair comment on my post =)

Edi · #10 December 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM

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Yes, it was hyperbole, along with the 9th and 10th path of magic that those shinu mages are looking for. I guess some people may have been genuinely confused though if they didn't know the game that well, so probably a fair comment on my post =)

Hey, it's 10 pm and I'm on helldesk duty, do you really expect me to think straight?

Edi