End-of-war German OOB

paganize · #1 December 27th, 2006, 05:24 AM

Thank you!
The file on the yahoo group seems to be corrupt; I posted there to see if anyone had a better copy.
And thanks, Marcello, I hadn't seen the Jagdpanther in the french OOB; you mention seeing a StugIV & a Hetzer, do you remember where? I found the 88's in the spanish OOB.
I'm sort of surprised that this isn't already done to death; in HOI2 I've fought WW2 as both the Byzantine Empire & the CSA, I'm sort of shocked no one has a mod for SPMBT allowing for WW2 to continue longer, maybe to the point where the Allied tanks were reaching parity with the known-to-exist german late war equipment.
I know, I know, do it myself.

Marcello · #2 December 27th, 2006, 04:02 PM

There should be several Hetzer around.One of them is unit n. 28 in the Hungary OOB.The Stug IV isn't actually in the game as an unit (or at least I never saw it) but the icon is provided, n. 2089.

Next best thing is checking the file WINSPMBT_MasterIconList, which (at least in my computer) can be found here:
C:\Program Files\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPMBT\Game Data\Design
Using a search function you can find what you need. Note that the naming of the icons follow very inconsistent patterns, so you will have to be creative with the search function.

"I'm sort of shocked no one has a mod for SPMBT allowing for WW2 to continue longer"

Because both SPWAW and SPWW2 can deal with "longer WW2" in a more effective manner, as they are designed to deal with WW2 in first place.The icons available in SPMBT are here to represent the limited postwar usage of german WW2 armor, from the french love affair with the Panther to the syrian PZ IV soldiering on until the six days war, to the postwar production of the Hetzer and haltracks. As such most of the mid-late war stuff is here but some important elements are missing, like the Tiger.

RecruitMonty · #3 January 5th, 2007, 09:21 PM

I have an OOB and some files you might like to take a look at. they have something to do with that. You can get panzer IVs and IIIs as well as Panthers, Hummels, JgdPz IV, Bf 109, SdKfz 251s, Stugs, a bomber and transport plane and also the experimental Helicopters (I think). Everything else you can just port over from WinSPWW2. That is what I did.

RecruitMonty · #4 January 5th, 2007, 09:23 PM

Thinking about it, if you check out my "What if units" post you will find a panther II (E50) an E 100 and an E75 (Kingtiger III) as well as a Loewe (precursor to the Tiger II I think) and some special IFVs.

RecruitMonty · #5 January 6th, 2007, 08:18 PM

I have a German OOB (No. 35) which replaces Denmark (same infantry colour scheme) and contains a lot of the late WWII stuff (except the Tiger I and some of the PjJgr.) I spliced those unit on to the end of the West German stuff (all of the allied input removed of course). It is more of a sort of Imperial German OOB in that the SS is renamed ISS (Die imperialische Schutsstaffel) and the later German Jaeger have been re jigged so they are a heavy infantry unit. The M113 are also kept in but have been renamed and the icons have been changed to something a little more German. The old WWII units are there including some airplanes too. There is some hypothetical stuff in there and some of the work still needs to be done. Hypothetical heirs to the Jagdtiger and a series of Jagdpanzer Leopards.
The Luftwaffe is extensively represented (albeit some stats might be a little off but...)The Stukas, ME 262s, Me 109s etc are all accurate and there are a lot of 60s 70s Bundeswehr VTOL aircraft in there too.

paganize · #6 March 15th, 2008, 08:51 AM

RecruitMonty, looks like what you are coming up with is exactly what I wanted, or at least close enough.
It really should be a complete game; I'm thinking the strategic overview from Falcon 4 (that would show in-theater level maps how your units efforts effect the overall situation, if you capture THIS supply depot the overall opposing force has less resources temporarily, etc), SPMBT tactical, and a variation of the old Panzer General 1 or 2 for campaign elements.
While I could, possibly, if I devoted myself to it fanatically to the exclusion of all other things, program the strategic overview thing, the rest is quite a way beyond me.
I'd be happy enough with a modded OOB.

RecruitMonty · #7 March 19th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Well I am not too sure if the first part of your plan is feasible but my project has certainly grown in scale. Most of the units, if not all, have been included. I am still a long way from release though.