Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?

haileris · #1 December 30th, 2006, 10:25 PM

Hmm though having played around a little more Dom still runs considerably slower than on XP regardless.

Oh well, I guess XP wasn't going to go away yet because of other apps in any case.
Cheers
Drew

alexti · #2 December 30th, 2006, 11:03 PM

It's probably the drivers. ATI was notorious for poor OpenGL drivers and with Vista drivers being still in a bit "beta", I'd guess OpenGL wasn't their first priority

Arralen · #3 December 31st, 2006, 05:34 AM

Google for +Vista +OpenGL +support .

Get ready to migrate to Linux

Agrajag · #4 December 31st, 2006, 05:45 AM

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Arralen said:
Google for +Vista +OpenGL +support .

Get ready to migrate to Linux

This was the first result, not very discouraging for Vista+OpenGL.

Arralen · #5 December 31st, 2006, 09:01 AM

It is, as you'll be either
a) stuck with the "layered" OpenGL 1.4 provided by MS - guess this will happen with all low-budget and on-board GPUs, as the vendor will only have to provide working DX drivers then. Speed will be abysmal.
b) at the mercy of Ati and nVidia to provide ICDs for your card. Older cards will be dropped I bet and have to use a)

Btw., what I'm really hoping that the folks from reactOS get their OpenGL support working again, that I can run Dom on ROS ;-)

Agrajag · #6 December 31st, 2006, 09:38 AM

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Arralen said:
It is, as you'll be either
a) stuck with the "layered" OpenGL 1.4 provided by MS - guess this will happen with all low-budget and on-board GPUs, as the vendor will only have to provide working DX drivers then. Speed will be abysmal.
b) at the mercy of Ati and nVidia to provide ICDs for your card. Older cards will be dropped I bet and have to use a)

Then again, what are you expecting to run with those on-board GPUs and older cards?
Also, if you can't afford a decent GPU, you definitely can't afford all the RAM and proccessing power Vista requires, nor getting a legal copy of Vista, so why don't you just stay with XP?

(I'm not really trying to argue for Vista, I'm definitely not going to switch to Vista anytime in the forseeable future. I was just joking how the first link actually works to disprove the point you were trying to make)

alexti · #7 December 31st, 2006, 02:37 PM

I think that OpenGL as layer on top of DirectX is not necessarily a bad thing. Performance bottlenecks are usually either in GPU performance or in the bus bandwidth. Those places are not affected by the extra layer where OpenGL API will get translated into DirectX (that will happen before anything will go to GPU). Besides, from what I understand, ABI in Vista is significantly different from ealier version of Windows and DLL function call is not a huge performance hit anymore.

I guess we will see... I'm not in a rush of getting Vista either (so far Win98 can handle whatever doesn't work on Linux just fine), but Vista actually looks promising. It might be the first solid OS from Microsoft. I think they've brought many good people on board in the last 5-7 years and from developer perspective their attitude has changed and now the quality seems to be in pretty high regard. Hopefully it will pay out with Vista.