Another simple improvement

HoneyBadger · #1 January 3rd, 2007, 07:44 PM

Well, you would know better than I, Johan, but I wouldn't bet money against there being one or two fans of the game out there who are quite good with C/C++ and would be only too happy to work on the game-even the drudgework of the game-as an internship project, or as research for a college thesus, and I'll bet there's one or two working at McDonalds that haven't landed a company contract and would rather be programming for minimum wage than flipping burgers. I'd also hazard a guess that in Sweden it's harder to find good programmers for less than it is in the US. I know that a lot of us here-myself included-would love to be involved more directly in the production of the game, it's just the question of getting our backsides on to your couch

You're a fine, extremely hard-working programmer, Johan, and the pressure on you must be enormous. I love the game you've created, dearly, and I want to see it continue and flourish, without causing you any undo stress. I don't know you as a human being, but from what I do know, you certainly deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor and watch your Dom3 baby grow in beautiful directions without having to break your back in the process. I hope you'll understand that I'm just trying to think of ways to help you achieve that. And thank you, by the way, for all that you have done so far. We're all grateful.

Gandalf Parker · #2 January 3rd, 2007, 08:18 PM

Actually thats a different Johan. He is the brother of Kristoffer.

But personally, Ive managed programmers. And your post made me smile.

HoneyBadger · #3 January 3rd, 2007, 11:06 PM

Oh, well, you know which Johan I mean, and so do the relevant Johans, and I believe the other Johan helped as well with Dom3? Anyway, before I confuse myself too much with all the Johans, I haven't managed programmers before (but I have managed plenty of angry fliers, and programmers couldn't possibly be worse than angry confused jetlaggers in the middle of a snowstorm), and I'm sure they can be difficult, but any specifics that you'd like to share, though?

Gandalf Parker · #4 January 4th, 2007, 12:25 AM

Programmers dont tend to work well together. Apparently its true of many creative skills where each person is sure that their way is best.

One of the jokes is that managing programmers is like herding cats. You stand behind them, wave your arms, make lots of noise, and then hope that ONE of them ends up where you wanted them. (in other words they dont move together well)

What it would take for another programmer to write code then have them work to insert it.. Im sorry but it makes me smile. Now that I think of it, Johan is probably doing things in the best possible way. He has put lots of effort into allowing more and more MOD commands which allows outside volunteer programmers to make things for the game. That has achieved more than might have happened from the same amount of time trying to work with someone else.

HoneyBadger · #5 January 4th, 2007, 12:39 AM

Yes, I definitely agree about the mod commands. The more the merrier. I have cats, and as far as herding them, we use food for that, which I've heard also works for programmers

alexti · #6 January 4th, 2007, 02:09 AM

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HoneyBadger said:
Yes, I definitely agree about the mod commands. The more the merrier. I have cats, and as far as herding them, we use food for that, which I've heard also works for programmers

Right, programmers love to eat. They don't need to eat as much as 1000 people (and they even can't eat as much as 1000 people), but they still love to have enough money to eat as much as 1000 people

PDF · #7 January 4th, 2007, 01:24 PM

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alexti said:

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HoneyBadger said:
Yes, I definitely agree about the mod commands. The more the merrier. I have cats, and as far as herding them, we use food for that, which I've heard also works for programmers

Right, programmers love to eat. They don't need to eat as much as 1000 people (and they even can't eat as much as 1000 people), but they still love to have enough money to eat as much as 1000 people

In Dom terms it's called "Gluttony".
For example Bill gates is Gluttony (10000000000)

NTJedi · #8 January 4th, 2007, 12:43 PM

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HoneyBadger said:
You're a fine, extremely hard-working programmer, Johan, and the pressure on you must be enormous. I love the game you've created, dearly, and I want to see it continue and flourish, without causing you any undo stress. I don't know you as a human being, but from what I do know, you certainly deserve to enjoy the fruits of your labor and watch your Dom3 baby grow in beautiful directions without having to break your back in the process.
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We're all grateful.

I agree... Johan and Kristofer are heroes in my book for creating such a wonderful game! Many of us are from the software and would be glad to help.