Why does this fleet retreat?

President_Elect_Shang · #1 January 9th, 2007, 02:39 PM

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Slick said:
I posted about this before, but there is no way to specify the leader of a fleet or task force. This is one of the negative consequences of not being able to do that.

Oops apologies for repeating you Slick. You are correct, unless you manually change the name you can not set leader. For example I have a fleet of four ships:

Crappy 0001
Crappy 0002
Crappy 0003
Crappy 0004

I want Crappy 0003 to be leader so I will have to select "Rename" then set it as something so it will be sorted first; such as aCrappy 0003. When i am done Crappy 0003 will be the leader and my fleet will list like this:

aCrappy 0003
Crappy 0001
Crappy 0002
Crappy 0004

Slick · #2 January 9th, 2007, 02:49 PM

At best that is a workaround. This needs to be fixed. Additionally, when another order (Join Fleet, which is currently also broken and not working) is fixed, this issue will raise its head again. BTW, I am not criticizing your workaround, it does at least work until the leader is killed.

Raapys · #3 January 9th, 2007, 03:07 PM

Hmm, take a look at the screenshot I attached. That doesn't look alphabetically sorted..?

Slick · #4 January 9th, 2007, 03:45 PM

Is there any positive proof that the first ship listed acts as the "Leader" ???

Phoenix-D · #5 January 9th, 2007, 04:01 PM

No, I'm pretty sure its just the first ship added to the fleet/task force.

Break Formation commands should take care of the issue, though.

President_Elect_Shang · #6 January 9th, 2007, 04:01 PM

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Raapys said:
Hmm, take a look at the screenshot I attached. That doesn't look alphabetically sorted..?

So how did you do it? I certainly can't get that to happen. What mod are you playing? I will try looking into the files to see if it is set somewhere.

I can pull ships out and place them back all day long and it will always sort mine.

Edit: Raapys do me a favor and zip and attach your save game please.

Phoenix-D · #7 January 9th, 2007, 04:08 PM

The attachment is in the first post, PES.

President_Elect_Shang · #8 January 9th, 2007, 04:14 PM

That is StarJack's save game. I wanted Raapy's to try and figure out why his doesn't sort and mine does. Nothing I have tried so far stops the sorting.

Kana · #9 January 9th, 2007, 04:31 PM

Maybe they are sorted by construction number, I know this was an issue in SEIV, that all items constructed have a number assigned telling what order it was constructed in.

Raapys · #10 January 9th, 2007, 04:35 PM

Actually, the screenshot is from Starjack's save. Guess the game might have some sorting issues with capital letters or some such, which would explain why other people's fleets sort alphabetically while his doesn't. There's definitely some sorting going on there though, since ships removed and put back into the fleet will appear at the same place that they were previously. At any rate, the game seems to always give the uppermost ship on the list the title 'leader', then they're assigned Core 1,2,3,4,..., etc. and unfortunately, weaponless ships can *never* be prevented from auto-retreating when under computer control, regardless of which strategy they have, which is why Starjack's weaponless leader ship, and therefor the whole fleet, will run as soon as combat starts.