Why no Save game Feature

[HoneyBadger]

Oh Gandalf, I was actually just coming up with a game idea. I wasn't trying to insult anyone, overtly or subtley. It would have been pretty clever if I had though, but no, just taking Newthought's idea and running with it.

I've got an interest in seeing scales become more interesting, and adding an addition to what we have now would be nice.

[PhilD]

PDF said:
Personally I'd be glad to have it but can live without.

Agree here. Something else I'd live without, is the superior attitude of so many Dom players when it comes to this kind of feature. "It's not how the game is supposed to be played and enjoyed, you cheater, so stop asking for it. Or just copy the files by hand"

(If you're not supposed to make saved games, how come simply copying the turn files works?)

Also note that if Dom doesn't have a real save feature like "all" other strat games have, it has *lots* of features that *no other* strat game has

Again, true.

[HoneyBadger]

I'm a fan of the game, so why shouldn't I feel "superior" for having bought and enjoyed a game, and participated in it's forum, without needing to
have something added to it that the Devs don't want to add?

I'm not saying I'm superior because "I'm a white (more or less) male who has enough money to afford the game", I'm not saying that I'm superior because "I've played this game from the beginning, and I know how it's supposed to be played".

I'm saying that I can enjoy something without it being just like everything else in it's genre, and I can work with or around the differences, and understand that where the game is limited, it's limited for reasons.

I also have no problem arguing for change I feel would be valuable, or for a saved-game feature that would add-rather than detract from-my personal gaming experience.

I really don't care for the modern concepts of "pride" as a wrong state to be in and "shame" as the correct and natural state, so-CONSIDERING that I strongly believe that everyone here is a complete and valuable human being worthy of respect to the extent that they allow it by their actions, totally regardless of gender, age, religion, number of limbs/eyes/ears/fingers, skin-tone, what have you, I have no problem with feeling superior when I act in a way I consider to be "superior".

[Archonsod]

Gandalf Parker said:
I didnt say it was difficult, just that its a headache. And yes Im aware of the programming side. Setting up file managment inside a program to work for windows, mac, and linux is not simple and quick. I see enough headaches with this programs file handling already on its installs and game cleanup just between linux and windows.

You are correct that tweaking the AI can be a forever project but the code is already there and is OS generic.

So is the save code. The game already autosaves prior to processing, you're just duplicating that and changing the target directory or filename.
Designing a third party program to manage the saves which works on mac, linux and Windows, now that's hard

[PhilD]

HoneyBadger said:
I'm a fan of the game, so why shouldn't I feel "superior" for having bought and enjoyed a game, and participated in it's forum, without needing to
have something added to it that the Devs don't want to add?

Err, I don't know... because a simple reality check should tell you that there is nothing to feel "superior" about in being a fan of a video game?

[HoneyBadger]

Then you shouldn't be complaining about others feeling that way, because obviously, we're not acting in a valid way, according to your own, private, reality.

I wonder how many football fans think their's no reason to feel superior when their team wins a game?

[PhilD]

HoneyBadger said:
Then you shouldn't be complaining about others feeling that way, because obviously, we're not acting in a valid way, according to your own, private, reality.

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here, sorry. It looks like you're implying that not taking video games too seriously is, in a way, denying reality. If so, yeah, we don't exactly live in the same world.

I wonder how many football fans think their's no reason to feel superior when their team wins a game?

That I couldn't say; but unless you're a member of the team, I'd say it's pretty ridiculous to feel superior when the team you're supporting wins; after all, they did so through absolutely no achievement of yours.

(And yes, I realize there are probably thousands or millions of football/basket/whatever fans who tend to react in the way you describe. That doesn't make them right, though)

[Meglobob]

I always feel superior when my team Man U wins. I also feel pretty good about playing and owning Dom3 as well, especially as 99% of video game players do not even know Dom3 exists. Both help brighten my day...

[HoneyBadger]

I would agree with you about football fans, but that's because I don't enjoy football all that much (I even used to play it, and didn't like it much then, either), but as a fan of Dom3 I agree with Meglobob.

It brightens up my day, what's the problem with that?

Do I have a tattoo of Johan K and Kristoffer O on my chest? no. Did I sign up for the monthly Illwinter newsletter and cheese plate? no. Am I planning a trip to Sweden? not in the forseeable future.

I'm a fan, not a crazy person, and I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling good about that, or even "having an attitude" about that. Especially considering there's a whole world out there that we who are Dom3 fans have to stick up for Dom3 against at times, if we're going to promote it successfully.

If you want to feel wishy-washy (ambivalent) about owning and playing Dom3, feel free, that's your choice. I'd rather feel enthusiastic and excited and proud. That's my choice.

[alexti]

PhilD said:

That I couldn't say; but unless you're a member of the team, I'd say it's pretty ridiculous to feel superior when the team you're supporting wins; after all, they did so through absolutely no achievement of yours.

But you've skillfully selected the team to support