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January 14th, 2007, 05:52 AM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
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I'm a fan of the game, so why shouldn't I feel "superior" for having bought and enjoyed a game, and participated in it's forum, without needing to
have something added to it that the Devs don't want to add?
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Err, I don't know... because a simple reality check should tell you that there is nothing to feel "superior" about in being a fan of a video game?
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January 14th, 2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
Then you shouldn't be complaining about others feeling that way, because obviously, we're not acting in a valid way, according to your own, private, reality.
I wonder how many football fans think their's no reason to feel superior when their team wins a game?
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January 14th, 2007, 01:54 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
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Then you shouldn't be complaining about others feeling that way, because obviously, we're not acting in a valid way, according to your own, private, reality.
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I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here, sorry. It looks like you're implying that not taking video games too seriously is, in a way, denying reality. If so, yeah, we don't exactly live in the same world.
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I wonder how many football fans think their's no reason to feel superior when their team wins a game?
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That I couldn't say; but unless you're a member of the team, I'd say it's pretty ridiculous to feel superior when the team you're supporting wins; after all, they did so through absolutely no achievement of yours.
(And yes, I realize there are probably thousands or millions of football/basket/whatever fans who tend to react in the way you describe. That doesn't make them right, though)
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January 14th, 2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
I always feel superior when my team Man U wins. I also feel pretty good about playing and owning Dom3 as well, especially as 99% of video game players do not even know Dom3 exists. Both help brighten my day...
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January 14th, 2007, 02:22 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
I would agree with you about football fans, but that's because I don't enjoy football all that much (I even used to play it, and didn't like it much then, either), but as a fan of Dom3 I agree with Meglobob.
It brightens up my day, what's the problem with that?
Do I have a tattoo of Johan K and Kristoffer O on my chest? no. Did I sign up for the monthly Illwinter newsletter and cheese plate? no. Am I planning a trip to Sweden? not in the forseeable future.
I'm a fan, not a crazy person, and I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling good about that, or even "having an attitude" about that. Especially considering there's a whole world out there that we who are Dom3 fans have to stick up for Dom3 against at times, if we're going to promote it successfully.
If you want to feel wishy-washy (ambivalent) about owning and playing Dom3, feel free, that's your choice. I'd rather feel enthusiastic and excited and proud. That's my choice.
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January 14th, 2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
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I wonder how many football fans think their's no reason to feel superior when their team wins a game?
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That I couldn't say; but unless you're a member of the team, I'd say it's pretty ridiculous to feel superior when the team you're supporting wins; after all, they did so through absolutely no achievement of yours.
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But you've skillfully selected the team to support 
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January 14th, 2007, 06:02 PM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
Yes, I have, Alexti. And for that matter, in this case I'm "supporting the team" by purchasing the game, promoting it, creating mods, submitting ideas, answering questions, being available on the boards on a more or less daily basis, etc. I think that atleast qualifies me as a volunteer part-time assistant Dom3 coach?
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January 15th, 2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
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About the Good/Evil Dominion thing, on a Gameplay scale I was trying to figure out a way to improve Divine castors and Morales of Troops (Because at the start of the game, this is Impossible.) I was also thinking about how people want to mass Dead units or go crazy with Blood.
What I thought that people might like was to make a Dominion that implemented a Realm of Nobility and Clergy to a realm of Black Magic, Ritualistic Sacrifices, and Troops ruled through the shadow.
The Good and Evil thing doesn't cover it as much as
Love------------------------------------------Cruelty
Bonuses to Penalties to
Morale Morale
Divine Casting Divine Casting
Penalties to Bonuses to
Death and Blood Magic Death and Blood Magic
That would be wicked, a Love-Cruelty spectrem.
An even better proposal. But no more on this.
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I thought we were in Agreement about the Save things???
"I think there should be a way for someone to download that option, if they want it, but it's no more valid an option than a mod. Maybe the Devs could charge a few bucks for it, and make a little added money on the side? That way we who don't want it-or atleast don't want it casually-in our games, have a good solid excuse not to obtain it? "
Sure! If you think Saving Games are generally against the game and hamper quaility, then please think of it like that. I'm not arguing on whether or not it's a bad thing, I just want the feature.
So in reality, we could put a feature that is not part of the Game into reality and call it whatever so people know that when there using saves there not playing the true game and have no right to complain about the game if they say ANYTHING about it!
But still, unless anyone says so, I think we have made a Geniunine solid compromise. Easy Part is done. Now the real question is, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT?
Few Ideas on the Table.
1. Send a Petition and a letter to encorporate a feature for Saves that can be downloaded in a seperate pack/sequel.
2. Or make a Mod that allows us to do it.
So yes, what's left is to take action.
That's all!
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January 15th, 2007, 02:16 AM
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Re: Why no Save game Feature
I dont think there is an agreement at all. Most people said no then walked away from the discussion.
But you asked for it and people gave it, so whats the problem?
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To some people, unlimited options seems to them to be zero options.
Without a menu giving them a choice, they are lost.
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