WinSPMBTver3.0 Info

[Marek_Tucan]

PRP-4M

Note that designation of PRP-4 variant with TI 1PN71 sight is PRP-4M/MU, that implies it definitely ISN'T basic version introduced in 1984 (besides started appearing on exhibitions in late 1990s). Basic PRP-4 was just equipped with better radar than PRP-3 (Tall Mike vs. Small Fred).
Also mentions of this sight (1PN71) started to appear only with BRM-3 recon vehicle, IE 1990's thing as well.

[Kuklinovsky]

Blah, blah, blah Tucano! Your thesis are in shambles so you start to jive! I suggest you to carefully read what I wrote before you begin your jabber.

It is obvious PRP-4 was introduced in 1984. It is also obvious it was equipped with 1PN59 thermal imager because it was the biggest difference between PRP-4 and PRP-3. Also it is obvious that later introduced PRP-4M vehicle had newer 1PN79 thermal sight. And none of your rubbish can change these basic facts.

Resume: Soviets HAD thermal technology in 1980s but they were reluctant to spread it wider across troops because they thought it wasn't necessary in the event of war with NATO in Europe. Also lack of money for TIs wasn't any kind of obstacle for Soviets. USSR always had plenty of cash on arms even at every other expense. That is why all these hidden suggestions that Soviets were shleppers or technologically backwarded savages are a piece of [censored]! But I am sure such suggestions are copasetic for US/UK teens!

PS. Though I try to create Mi-24K with TI in my OOBs, buddy! Western teens can't be allowed to rule on battlefield only because they can get AH-64D with visual set to...60!

[pdoktar]

Funny if you can rule the battlefield of WinSPmbt scale with a single helo, even if it would have vision of 99. Try to revise your tactics before revising the oobs..

[DRG]

Kuklinovsky ...... if you are simply going to ignore what others say and hurl abuse at them then leave this forum, you are wasting everyone's time with your nonsense.

I asked you for REAL info on the Mi-24K and all you can come back with is you'll add TI to it in your OOB's. Really??? ON WHAT EVIDENCE are you adding TI to this??. There is NO evidence that that helicopter used TI only IR

"IRIS wide-angle IR and optical sensor system."

is all that ANY source says this helo carried IR is NOT TI

The only one acting like a "teen" on these forums is you Kuklinovsky. Normally people are warned to modify their behaviour off list. In your case I'll make an exception. Disagreement on this forum is fine, but only in a respectful manner....no more name calling or you're gone.

Don

[Kuklinovsky]

Of course only I am an "acting teen" on this forum because real Western teens are waiting now for WinSPMBT 3.0 impatiently! They will be albe to smash Soviets like Iraqis with pleasure and everything will be fine!

Well, you can't intimidate me bannig from forum becaue I am leaving it myself!

But don't worry. I am sure hordes of combative US/UK teens will join this forum now! :mgreen:

[Stirling]

How much you want to bet that Kuklinovsky has a picture of Vladimir Zhirinovsky on his wall?

Right over Stalin's.

[BaronvonBeer]

USSR becoming Iraq is a bit extreme.

To do that you would have to do some serious OOB modding: Replace tanks with stripped down export T-72, at the high end. Replace it's gun to simulate 1970's vintage 3BM-12 & 3BM-15 SABOT rounds (some of local, allegedly inferior quality, manufacture) and reduce crew quality by a good margin.

And that's not factoring in IFVs, artillery, ATGMs, aircraft, and the fact that the open engagements of the desert had about as much in common with your typical West German battlefield as Antarctica has with Daytona Beach.

I don't think removing TI from a few Hind models that had em by mistake will quite do it.