WinSPMBTver3.0 Info

[DRG]

Djuice said:
Don't even think there is even such a tank called T-72BM1. There is the T-72B(M) which is a T-72B equipped with Kontakt-5 ERA.

Here is a pic of a T-72B(M) 1989 model, you cans see the differences. Tanks in the background are T-72B fitted with Kontakt-1 ERA.

Djuice said:
The new T-72BM has superior armour compared against the T-72B(M) 1989 model,

Djuice said:
It's a T-72B upgraded with 3rd generation Relikt Hvy ERA, some 80-90% superior then K-5 Hvy ERA

OK lets clarify a few things one of the real problems with sorting out Russian equipment is the nomenclature

Is this the progession you are talking about

T-72B basic model no ERA
T-72B(M) first upgrade around 1989 equipped with Kontakt-1 ERA ( or is it Kontakt-5 ERA?? )
T-72BM 3rd generation Relikt Hvy ERA in abouts 2006

??

Answer quick, the patch is built tomorrow......

One last thing. In the game the "T-72BM1" version has VRRSS and the "T-72BM" does not. Which of these models carries a VRRSS type defense

Don

[Djuice]

T-72B basic model no ERA
T-72B(M) first upgrade around 1989 equipped with Kontakt-1 ERA ( or is it Kontakt-5 ERA?? )
T-72BM 3rd generation Relikt Hvy ERA in abouts 2006

??

Answer quick, the patch is built tomorrow......

One last thing. In the game the "T-72BM1" version has VRRSS and the "T-72BM" does not. Which of these models carries a VRRSS type defense

Russian T-72B all have Kontakt-1 ERA. NATO classification is T-72BV for some strange reason, but internal Soviet/Russian classifications is just T-72B.
T-72B(M) is T-72B with Kontakt-5 Heavy ERA.
T-72BM is the newest upgrade in 2006 fitted with Relikt ERA.

There isnt actually a T-72BM1 at all. Smoke grenades changes don't actually classify as a major change therefore there is no need to have it's own designation. For all we know all tanks could use them.

[wulfir]

DRG said:
OK lets clarify a few things one of the real problems with sorting out Russian equipment is the nomenclature

It was probably meant to be confusing, part of the Russians' obsession with maskirovka and all that...

[DRG]

Part of the problem comes from blended Russian and "NATO" designations and some "domestic" models have different designations than the "export" versions and yes, this has been discussed before, it does seem the nominclature was designed to confuse.

Don