Soviet OBB T-62 designations

[DRG]

Smersh said:
It is all a mess.

Exactly. I'm generally happy with "close enough" becasue there will always be someone with different information. If it was easy, it wouldn't have been a point for discussion for as long as we've been working on the game. I put your info about the T-62 on the list

Don

[MarkSheppard]

Okay, lets see, the following is from Stephen J Zaloga's T-64 and T-80 books with Concord:

T-64R - This is the pre-series production type with the D-68 115mm gun, Ammunition was 40 rounds, of which 30 were in the Korzina autoloader, Total production was about 600 tanks.

T-64 - This was the initial production version with the 125mm D-81T gun. This version had the ZIP tool stowage bin on the right front side and no rear turret stowage bin. Most of these were later modernized as T-64A (rebuild).

T-64A - The T-64A was the first major production series of the T-64 family, It incorporated a number of changes from the initial T-64R and T-64. The ZIP tool stowage box on the right front fender was replaced by an additional fuel cell. A substitute ZIP tool stowage box was added behind the turret, The T-64 had a variety of other internal improvements added. Total production was over 1400.

T-64A (rebuilt) - The T-64A(rebuilt) is a rebuilt T-64 or T-64A, incorporating the new improvements found on later T-64 models. This includes substitution of a rubber side skirt for the gill armor, addition of glacis plate hull armor applique, stowage improvements and other small changes.

T-64B - The T-64B was a redesign of the T-64 to incorporate a new generation of hull and turret armor which was not as bulky as the 1st generation Combination K armor on the T-64A, while offering the same or better protection. The T-64B also introduced the new 9M112 Kobra radio-command guided anti-tank missile (AT-8 Songster), This missile requires a radio-command antenna box, which is fitted immediately forward of the commander's right turret station, A new gunner's sight was fitted which included a laser rangefinder, making the right hand portion of the coincidence rangefinder unnecessary. The T-64B carries 36 rounds of conventional ammunition and 6 Kobra missiles, compared to 37 rounds of 125mm ammunition on the T-64A. This version was called SMT M1980/2 by NATO. When fitted with smoke mortars, it was dubbed SMT M1981/1.

T-64B1 - The T-64B1 is an upgrade to the T-64B, although details of specific improvements are lacking. It may distinguish between new-build T-64Bs, and tanks rebuilt to T-64B standard on the basis of older T-64As during periodic rebuilding, The T-64B1 is on uncommon type with only about 400 built compared to over 1200 T-64B,

T-64BV/T-64B1V - The -V designator identifies tanks retrofitted with explosive reactive armor (ERA), This type of armor was developed under the direction of V.N.Bryzgov at the Nil Research Institute of the Main Armor Directorate at Kubinka in the Moscow suburbs.

T-64 Command Tanks - There are three command tank versions of the T-64 series. These types ore identified by a "K" suffix after the usual designation. The command types have an additional command radio compared to the usual radio fit, and usually have a land navigation device, less ammunition and an additional external radio antenna storage tube. The three main command types of the T-64 family are the T-64AK, T-64B1K and T-64BV1K, The T-64AK was not fitted with the usual 12.7mm NSVT machine gun over the commander's stotion, Additional types on other variants may also hove existed in the past, but hove been consolidated into these types by 1990.

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T-80 - This is the basic production version of the tank, It is sometimes nicknamed the "Kobra", due to its use of the 9M112 Kobra radio-command guided missile, This is a relatively uncommon type, and only a few hundred were built.

T-80B - Sometimes nicknamed Beryoza (birch Tree), this is the first major redesign of the T-80 family with a modified turret. The turret incorporates a new generation of Composite K ceramic armor which offers better protection against APFSDS kinetic energy penetrators. The turret has an equivalent protective level of 500mm steel compare to 410mm in the earlier models and the T-64. This is the most common variant of the T-80, with over 3,500 in service with Soviet tank units west of the Urals as of 1990. The T-80BK is the command tank variant.

T-80BV - The T-80BV is the T-80B fitted with 1st generation explosive reactive armor. The T-80BVK is the command tank version, There is also a late production type with a new turret similar to the SMT Ml989, but fitted with the turbine engine and 1 st generation ERA. This is probably the T-80U.

T-80D - Soviet documents refer to a T-80D. Nothing definite is known of this variant though it may refer either to an initial diesel powered version of the T-80, or a T-80 equivalent of the T-55AD Drozh anti-missile air defense vehicle.

T-80U/T-80UD - This is the latest version of the T-80 family, sometimes called the SMT M1989. This version has two significant changes from the earlier T-80 family, including a new turret with on improved frontal armor package with 2nd generation reactive armor. This variant is equipped with the 9K120 Svir laser guided antitank missile in place of the older Kobra. The standard version is fitted with the 6TD diesel engine, a 6-cylinder derivative of the 5TDF engine found in the T-64 family, There have been reports that a version of this tank exists with the older gas-turbine engine, but equipped with the modified turret and 2nd generation reactive armor. In the photos here, this version is referred to as the T-80UD.

[Mobhack]

Nice info - but not on-topic for the thread's subject. T62. Tee Sixty Two.

Cheers
Andy

[DRG]

Agreed this is nice info and strays off the topic a bit with the T-80 info but one thing a lot of lists like this we have seen lack is introduction dates for the new models and upgrades. It's great to get the details ( and it is ) but much of the information we see lacks the critical in ( and out of ) service dates which is critcal information

What I would like to see is a list like that for all models ( T-54 all the way to t-90) with the service dates included.

If anyone has real hard data on all the models WITH the in service ( and out of service dates if possible ) which can be matched to the detailed information on what changed in the new model/upgrade we would all go a long way to putting this issue to bed finally.

Don

[MarkSheppard]

Nice info - but not on-topic for the thread's subject. T62. Tee Sixty Two.

Well, I didn't want to make another thread, and sort of wanted to keep the information in the same thread as the other Soviet tank stuff, so that it's easier to find for all of us

[DRG]

The thing is, it's easy to find this now. Two months from now it's buried and forgotten when threads are mixed

Don

[thatguy96]

Has anyone thought to try and compile these in a text file format of some sort? Would that be useful? I've compiled a number of word tables like this, so if it would be useful to compile the information with notes on sources I can offer to do that and take the load off other people with more pressing projects.

[Djuice]

T-62 (1961) - Obj.166
Base model. 2A20 gun with two plane "Meteor" stabiliser and +16/-6 deg elevation/depretion, 2245mm turret ring. TKN-3 TC day/night sight, TSh2B-41 gunner day sight with 3.5/7x magnification, TPN1-41-11 night sight. 40 rounds ammo load. PKT coax with 2500 rounds. V-55V engine with 580hp. 102mm@60deg glacis, 242mm max frontal turret.
Since 1969. DShKM AAMG was installed.
In 1975 KTD-1 LRF was installed.
None of those versions got any separate designation.*

T-62A (1962). Obj.164
This is NOT a designation aplied to a AAMG equiped T-62 but totaly diferent vehicle, armed with 100mm D-54TS gun, with "Kometa" two plane stabiliser.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166K
Aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. 36 x 115mm rounds, 1750 rounds for a coax PKT.

T-62K (1964) - Obj.166KN
+ TNA-2 navigation aids

T-62D (1983) - Obj.166D
1030M "Drozd" APS installed.

T-62D-1 (1983) - Obj.166D-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M (1983) Obj.166M
Deep modernisation of the T-62.
Aditional armor on glacis and turret, aditional anti-mine protection for driver, 10mm reinforced rubber side skirts, 10mm anti-neutron-liner. Tracks from T-72, two aditional amortisers on 1st roadwheels. KTD-2 LRF, TShSM-41U gunner's sight, "Meteor M1" stabiliser, BV-62 balistic computer, 9K116-1 "Sheksna" guided missile unit. Gun thermal sleave, R-173 radio instead of R-123M and 620hp V-55U engine. 42 rounds of 115 ammo/missiles.

T-62M-1 - Obj.166M-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1 - Obj.166M1
No missile guidance.

T-62M1-1 - Obj.166M1-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.

T-62M1-2 - Obj.166M1-2
No missile guidance and no aditional armor.

T-62M1-2-1 - Obj.166M1-2-1
No missile guidance, no aditional armor, V-46-5M engine.

T-62MD (1983) Obj.166MD
T-62M version with "Drozd" APS instead of aditional turret armor.

T-62MD-1 - Obj.166MD-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62MK - Obj.166MK
Command version, no missile guidance, TNA-2 navigation aids, aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. Less main gun and coax ammo.

T-62MK-1 - Obj.166MK-1
With V-46-5M engine.

T-62MV (1985) - Obj.166MV
K-1 era instead of aditional armor.

T-62MV-1 - Obj.166MV-1
With V-46-5M engine

T-62M1V - Obj.166M1V
No missile guidance

T-62M1V-1 - Obj.166M1V-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.