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Old February 1st, 2007, 03:54 PM

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Default Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency

Don't have a top-view, just a top/down side view.


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/51/87webso9.jpg
http://www.leo2.ch/leo2/kwst%20pz%2087.JPG
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The first one is good. It gives me a better idea of what's going on up on top than I have found so far

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Old February 3rd, 2007, 07:00 AM
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I've got a nice link - view from behind...
http://www.leo2.ch/index_1.1.htm

By the way the modifications in my oob are manly about waepon and not the armor - that's because I know a Swiss army weapon mechanic... and the dates of assignment.

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Big mufflers. I guess people were complaining about the noise eh ?

Or do the Swiss like "steathy" tanks ?

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Yea, They are the only tanks (in the world I think) to comply with the European noise regulation.
(For normal road trafic)

By the way I checked the old DOS version of SPIIMB; for a 2A4 it was a max armor of 90 and the 2A5 was 120 -- but that was an other time...
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I did some research but didn't got a final answer.
That's what I've got about the swiss version (Pz 87)

1. Swiss variant (based on A4) built at the Federal Construction Works in Thun, Switzerland. First 35 manufactured at Krauss-Maffei in Munich; last 345 at Federal at 72 tanks/year rate with the final delivery in 1993.
Modifications include Baird passive night periscope, Swiss machine guns and communications equipment, digital fire control computer, and improved NBC protection. It also has a slightly different turret rear and improved noise-reducing exhaust mufflers.
2. Swiss tanks were improved to the Leopard 2A5 standard in 2000/2001
3. Switzerland is not using the wedge armour developed in Germany and used for all Leopard 2A5+ versions
4. From 2008 around 120 Pz 87 will be upgraded and designated Pz 87 WE (~A6 standard, mine protection)
5. Instead of the wedge armour the 230mm strong boxes are used which keep the well known form of the Pz 87 turret ...

A good source is here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...p/t-31407.html
and here:
http://www.kampfpanzer.de/ -- but off line at the moment...
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OK, just curious. Is the Pz87 we use for our splash screen the early or more recent model? I'm guessing it's the early version.

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