Brainstorming : LA Man, Vs LA Utgard

[JulienLeo]

thejeff said:
What does Chelms have for national summons? I don't remember anything spectacular.

It does seem strange to have half your starting gem income in Nature and no Nature mages to use it. Really limits pretender design.

Taken from another post, credit to Kalin :

Summon Black Dogs should summon 20 black dogs for 10 death gems.
(Black Dogs: 14HP, size 2, 4 Prot, 13 Mor/MR, 2 Enc, 12 str, 12 atk, 10 def, 5 prec, 3/24 Mv, +20 Stealthy, Animal, 100 Darkvision, Bite attack)

Summon Cu Sith should summon 7 Cu Sith for 10 nature gems.
(Cu Sith: 26HP, size 3, 7 Prot, 14 Mor/MR, 2 Enc, 15 str, 13 atk, 12 def, 5 prec, 3/28 Mv, Sacred, +0 Stealthy, Forest Survival, Animal, Bite attack)

Summon Baghests should summon 9 Baghest for 13 death gems.
(Baghests: 28HP, size 3, 6 Prot, 14 Mor, 15 MR, 2 Enc, 16 str, 13 atk, 10 def, 5 pref, 3/26 Mv, Sacred, +20 Stealthy, Animal, 100 Darkvision, Venomous Bite attack)

The summons aren't too bad ... however I can't take advantage of them due to my pretender built ...

I should have bought at least D2 for my pretender ... who is still imprisoned atm *grins*

Flaming arrow is a good option, I agree that it can be absolutely devasting on giants, however I can see that it will take a long bit of time to get into shape and to have something worthy.

Regarding light of the northstar and soulslay spam, that seems like a good idea (not sure if I have researched it yet however, gotta check and have a look at the book to see what level it is). From the battle I have seen, I wouldn't be too much worried about the astral mage from Urtgar, as the basic tactics seems to be a Priest lvl 2, spam blessing Woodman ... a bit cheap and crude for a tactics, you will have to agree however it is definitely effective *laughs*.
So if I can stop his army, I think that will give me some time to work on a tactic and harass him a bit with an important sneaking army.

Oh ... what would you think of a phantasm spam with the air mage ? Any chance that it could work against the big giants, maybe buying some time for the archer to take them down, and of course, I wouldn't have to worry too much about friendly fire.

[thejeff]

Right, those are new in 3.06. I only really looked at Chelms in 3.04.

I haven't tried the phantasm spam idea. My guess is you'd need a ton of mages to make it effective. You don't have a reliable source of cheap A1 mages and there has to be something more effective for the Magisters Arcane to do. But like I said, I haven't tried it and I've often been surprised by what does work.

I'd be more tempted to recruit cheap, but real, troops to slow them and hope mass longbows and crossbows can drop them.

Commanders with bows on fire rear to target his commanders?