Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3

[y.a.newbe]

for CTP (Call To Power) check out http://www.apolyton.net/ctp2/
IMHO the site really s***s but the stuff they provide is worth the trouble.

[Dracus]

I was going to buy real war, but then I heard it was crap also. It seems to me that lately the larger gaming companies are on the same page. They all produce half-done games and then provide no support.
I was really looking forward to more play with simcity 3000 but it was missing some things from 2000. very big let down, then I tryed CTP and found it less enjoyable then civ II so I was looking forward to Civ III to now hear it is messed up. Myth Sega is taken by bugs. Man where do I go now, am I to be reduced to having to dust off the old games in between seiv turns or maybe I could write one of my own.

[Baron Munchausen]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41282,00.html

Windows XP = Windows Exposed

Oh, yeah, I wanna have the very LATEST software and be up to date!

Think I'll stick with 98 and a decent third-party firewall, actually.

[Atrocities]

Thanks for the support on this guys. I thought I was going to get flamed on my opinion of Civ3.

What I liked about the game was the AI. It was very good when compared to CTP1 and II. I also liked the Diplomacy feature of this game, the tech tree was nice, and the sound was ok.

What I despised about Civ3 is a rather extensive list. One that I honestly don’t even want to get started on. I have cut my losses, and have uninstalled the game. I am out the 50 bucks, but at least I have a nice new coaster.

[Talenn]

I have Civ3 and so far, I'm not overly impressed. There are quite a few nice concepts in there, but the tedium and late game micro of EVERYTHING leave a bad taste. I cant believe they couldnt even implement some sort of a stack move...

There are quite a few things I do like, and crashwise, its been fine (only one so far in quite a few games).

All in all, it very much feels like an unfinished product. The fact that they had promised 'cool new multiplayer features' and then pulled multi altogether two weeks before release speaks volumes. The whole game has a 'shoddy' feel to it and its obvious that a lot of fine tuning in balance and feel just didnt get done.

Also, someone mentioned 'REAL WAR' down there? Dont bother...it is REALLY pathetic. Its just another 'build a ton of anything and throw it in the general direction of your enemy' type of RTS game. There is no resource management to speak of and the units are very generic. The unit pathing is dreadful. The game is not worth it even if you found it at 50% off IMO. Wait for the $10 bin and MAYBE its worth it for some of the cinematics...maybe.

For EU2, its pretty good. I sort of burned out on EU1 and 2 isnt so different that I'm totally engrossed, but its still a very strong title, especially with the latest and greatest patch (1.02). If you like any form of historically based TBS games, grab this one.

Just my $.02

Talenn

[Saxon]

I am just seconding Spyder’s request. Anyone got a link for Illwinter Dominions?

Someone has already bought me Civ III and it is in the mail. Sigh.

[Spyder]

Does anyone ever wish that they'd update and re-release The Perfect General?

I thought it was a great two-man game. You played the agressor and then the defender and tallyed the points to see who won. Each city or strategic point held counted points. The original game was limited to Armor & Artillery, but the second (which I never played) incorporated some more materiel.

Another game I wish that they'd update and re-release is Global Conquest. The game was done by Dan Bunten (before he became Dani Bunten) and was a great short-term 4x game. You could have up to 4 players; you had to discover resources, defend them and the cities (which were guarded by neutrals) and conduct exploration & war, while trying to maintain resources and funding. One of the very best options of Global Conquest was that you could set up the turn length to one of 4 methods: 1) Unlimited; 2) 5 minutes; 3) 1 minute; 4) Firecracker. Firecracker is the cutthroat setting On the Firecracker mode, when the first person hits his done button, ALL PLAYERS ARE DONE really evil I would make the game board octagonal and increase the number of players to 8 and make the game board a little larger to accomodate that.