Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3

Atrocities · #1 December 21st, 2001, 06:01 AM

Thanks for the support on this guys. I thought I was going to get flamed on my opinion of Civ3.

What I liked about the game was the AI. It was very good when compared to CTP1 and II. I also liked the Diplomacy feature of this game, the tech tree was nice, and the sound was ok.

What I despised about Civ3 is a rather extensive list. One that I honestly don�t even want to get started on. I have cut my losses, and have uninstalled the game. I am out the 50 bucks, but at least I have a nice new coaster.

Talenn · #2 December 21st, 2001, 08:03 AM

I have Civ3 and so far, I'm not overly impressed. There are quite a few nice concepts in there, but the tedium and late game micro of EVERYTHING leave a bad taste. I cant believe they couldnt even implement some sort of a stack move...

There are quite a few things I do like, and crashwise, its been fine (only one so far in quite a few games).

All in all, it very much feels like an unfinished product. The fact that they had promised 'cool new multiplayer features' and then pulled multi altogether two weeks before release speaks volumes. The whole game has a 'shoddy' feel to it and its obvious that a lot of fine tuning in balance and feel just didnt get done.

Also, someone mentioned 'REAL WAR' down there? Dont bother...it is REALLY pathetic. Its just another 'build a ton of anything and throw it in the general direction of your enemy' type of RTS game. There is no resource management to speak of and the units are very generic. The unit pathing is dreadful. The game is not worth it even if you found it at 50% off IMO. Wait for the $10 bin and MAYBE its worth it for some of the cinematics...maybe.

For EU2, its pretty good. I sort of burned out on EU1 and 2 isnt so different that I'm totally engrossed, but its still a very strong title, especially with the latest and greatest patch (1.02). If you like any form of historically based TBS games, grab this one.

Just my $.02

Talenn

Saxon · #3 December 21st, 2001, 10:39 AM

I am just seconding Spyder’s request. Anyone got a link for Illwinter Dominions?

Someone has already bought me Civ III and it is in the mail. Sigh.

Spyder · #4 December 21st, 2001, 03:09 PM

Does anyone ever wish that they'd update and re-release The Perfect General?

I thought it was a great two-man game. You played the agressor and then the defender and tallyed the points to see who won. Each city or strategic point held counted points. The original game was limited to Armor & Artillery, but the second (which I never played) incorporated some more materiel.

Another game I wish that they'd update and re-release is Global Conquest. The game was done by Dan Bunten (before he became Dani Bunten) and was a great short-term 4x game. You could have up to 4 players; you had to discover resources, defend them and the cities (which were guarded by neutrals) and conduct exploration & war, while trying to maintain resources and funding. One of the very best options of Global Conquest was that you could set up the turn length to one of 4 methods: 1) Unlimited; 2) 5 minutes; 3) 1 minute; 4) Firecracker. Firecracker is the cutthroat setting

On the Firecracker mode, when the first person hits his done button, ALL PLAYERS ARE DONE

really evil

I would make the game board octagonal and increase the number of players to 8 and make the game board a little larger to accomodate that.

Mephisto · #5 December 21st, 2001, 04:23 PM

It is very sad, but Dani Bunten has died due to cancer.

She made games that I will ever have in my memory (M.U.L.E, Command HQ).

zen. · #6 December 21st, 2001, 04:26 PM

Dracus, Phoenix-D: Yah, they just said that Myth III was nowhere near Myth II in terms of quality. Of course, like Phoenix-D said, this is the same mag that gave Civ3 quite a high rating. Guess first-hand experience is always still the best!

Spyder, Saxon: http://www.illwinter.com/dominions.html

Do most sites/mags rate Civ3 highly? I usually settle on games that there is a consensus of high opinion upon. Although it looks like the scope of Civ3 might take more time than I would have.

zen

God Emperor · #7 December 21st, 2001, 04:35 PM

On operating systems;

err, I'm still running Win95 on a DOS platform, on my "2 cylinder" P233. Must admit though, I havent used my DOS features for a couple of years......

On the positive side, I've never had any incompatibility problems and my machine is very stable....

Wrt CivIII, thanks for the warnings. Think I may receive it as a Xmas present so at least now I have an idea of the issues...

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