Devs somewhere?

Velusion · #1 February 14th, 2007, 03:42 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:
If you check the views on the bug thread you will see that every bug reported gets viewed many times. Its true that the bug thread became something different than the devs wanted but it definetly still serves its purpose.

I fail to see how "Lots of views" = "Serves it's purpose". I thought the thread's purpose was to get bugs fixed?

(waits for the "there are two ways to look at this" Gandalf response)

Rasit · #2 February 14th, 2007, 03:57 PM

If I were to create a proper bug management and bug reporting site do you guys think it would be used?

I have a bug tracker written in php5 that I did for a company a while back that could be extended for this purpose. I also have some empty space at a web host that I could use for the site if the community would find it useful.

Edi · #3 February 14th, 2007, 04:16 PM

I think it would be a good idea, because there is a rather desperate need for a cleaned up list of bugs just so we can see what issues are already reported and which ones are not and to get a good picture of what we can expect to be addressed quickly and which ones we are likely going to have to wait for.

Being able to see outstanding issues in a short form, much like the Dom3 progress page, would be great. So if you feel up to the task, go for it.

There are people like me around who are bound to find a crapload of minor issues during the course of documenting the game. The weapons list alone produced a score of minor issues, the unit list issues are going to easily number over a hundred, most of which will be minor and some of which are very annoying.

I'll be happy to report things I find, but I've my hands full with the documentation so I'm not taking bug list maintenance up on my own. I'm more than willing to keep track of typo reports, which is why I created the thread for them and which somebody even bumped to the top page recently.

Edi

Velusion · #4 February 14th, 2007, 04:19 PM

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Rasit said:
If I were to create a proper bug management and bug reporting site do you guys think it would be used?

I have a bug tracker written in php5 that I did for a company a while back that could be extended for this purpose. I also have some empty space at a web host that I could use for the site if the community would find it useful.

That sounds like an awesome idea. However - you would pretty much need the Devs to sign off on it. If the Devs won't use it, there isn't much point in exerting the effort (unless you just want to keep players up-to-date on all the bugs).

Rasit · #5 February 14th, 2007, 04:32 PM

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Velusion said:
That sounds like an awesome idea. However - you would pretty much need the Devs to sign off on it. If the Devs won't use it, there isn't much point in exerting the effort (unless you just want to keep players up-to-date on all the bugs).

Well, it would not be to much work as I would be adapting one of my existing sites.

If we could get people to start reporting bug in there in a organized manner we would probably be able to get the devs to use it, unless they already have something like internally. If the devs want to use it they would of course get admin accounts on it so they could reclassify bug and things like that.

Besides, I like to have a little side project next to my ordinary work and a bug tracker is something I will need on another project that I will be begin working on sometimes soon.

I think I will create a thread to see if I can get some opinions on what features that would be needed.

Gandalf Parker · #6 February 14th, 2007, 04:47 PM

Im not sure that such a site would replace the bug thread. But if you used such a site and came back here to create a tight list, then it might be very likely to replace the thread here and get read more by the devs without the need for in-betweens to read and sort thru it for them.

A preferred result here is something like this....

crash bug

1. doing xxxxx crashes the game
link to discussion thread about this bug

2. not doing xxxxxx crashes the game
link to discussion thread on this bug

major bug
1.
link
2.
link

That makes it easy to read. Easy for devs to reply to (using numbers instead of having to quote). Easy to update. And keeping a link for each item can help keep it free of debates.

Of course there is still the big problem of bugs that arent bugs but thats a headache for whoever decides to takle this.