forge of the ancients stack with dwarven hammer?

[DrPraetorious]

Okay, this is not correct. It doesn't stack, it multiplies, and it rounds down at each step with a minimum of 1.

IIRC - The bonus from forge of the ancients is applied first, then the construction bonus of any sites, and then the forge bonus of the unit. I should doublecheck this.

So, for example, if you have forge+hammer (as I often do) the cost for a 25 gem item is 9 gems.

That's (25 * 0.5 = 12) * 0.75 = 9.

[Wish]

ok, I ran a test where i had a nataraja with the hammer of the forge lord, and a dwarven hammer, forge of the ancients, and a steel oven.

the gate stone costs 6 earth and 6 astral to forge given these conditions (normally 65 and 65)

(dwarven hammers don't stack with something in between... so i was wrong there)

[lch]

I am pretty sure that I equipped a master smith with a hammer of the forge lord and had forge of the ancients up in a test game (25+50+25 = 100 forge bonus) and I had only to pay 1 gem per color when forging. It wouldn't take much to test if my memory serves me correct here with a Wish mod.

[calmon]

I'm sure it doesn't stack in the way that 25+50+25=100. Try out to forge a high casting cost item like wizard ring and it will cost more than 1 gem.

[lch]

Okay, I didn't manage to get over a bonus of 75 now, too. Don't know how I acquired 100 before.

[Nick_K]

Forge of the ancients is forge bonus 50% IIRC. So is the Hammer of the forge lord. It's dwarven hammers that are 25%.

[Wish]

so by those standards what I had was 50 + 20 + 25 + 50...

I tested with the gatestone.... normally 65e/65s

after Ancients the gatestone would be 32/32
after the steel oven would make that 25/25
dwarven hammer reduces that by a quarter which is 18/18
forge lord should make that 9/9

but it was 6/6 -- so what happened i think was dwarven + forgerlord were counted as one calculation as 75% so 25/25 became 6/6 after the combined forge bonus.

it is praetorus and calmon who are right.