Bugs - Another Broken Game

[Ranger]

Problem1: I win battles but my forces disappear!
Problem2: Messages not reporting losess
See attached saved game (AA.ZIP).

Read Message - Battle in Kolermegor
It shows I won the battle with no losess, yet my forces do take losses, and my two leaders survive.

Watch the battle - I had two groups and two leaders, the leaders suvive the battle.
Leader Aithe, Priestess
Leader Paraminides, Mymidom Champion

Now look at the map, I own the province, yet my armies and leaders are gone!!!!

The same exact thing happens in the Battle of Jerib, I win the battle and my leaders survive and my forces disappear.

Battle of Jerib, message show I won no loses, the two leaders survive.

Leader, Hierolyta, Priestess
Leader, Phenos, Mymidom Champion

I own the province, yet my armies and leaders are gone!!!!
I'm winning battles and losing my armies and leaders


If you can't complete a game - it's broken!!!

[SelfishGene]

Are you sure they didn't just retreat, but you still happen to win before all your troops leave?

[Ranger]

Why would forces that win, reteat?

If they did reteat they would still be on the map, they are not, the armies and leaders disapeared!

I win the battle, still own the province and my forces disapear!!!!

[lch]

Ranger, I already answered your question. Your province defense won that battle and it ended when the last unit from Caelum retreated out of the battlefield. Nothing is wrong here. You still own the province and you still got your 41 province defense in there. The two commanders on the battlefield are those that you get from a province defense value >= 20. Have you still not understood how province defense works? Then please read your manual.

P.S.: The loss from your province defense doesn't show up in your battle reports because the province defense gets restored up to full troop strength in the new month. Duh.

[Ranger]

lch said:
Ranger, I already answered your question. Your province defense won that battle and it ended when the last unit from Caelum retreated out of the battlefield. Nothing is wrong here. You still own the province and you still got your 41 province defense in there. The two commanders on the battlefield are those that you get from a province defense value >= 20. Have you still not understood how province defense works? Then please read your manual.

Wrong, that was two of my armies in Jerib, I was building a temple in that province with the priestess and had a army protecting her.

You bring up a good point though, how do you tell the difference between regular army units and province defence units?

How come the losses aren't reported in the message window?
Maybe be there needs to be a different message for province defence unit battles!

[SlipperyJim]

Ranger said:
You bring up a good point though, how do you tell the difference between regular army units and province defence units?

The regular army units show up on the strategic display. You can assign them to commanders, move them around, give them a tactical order script, and so on.

Provincial Defense (PD) is simply a number in the province stats. That's all you can see on the strategic display. You can't give your PD any orders. When your PD is fighting someone, it will all deploy as a big "blob" in the middle of the tactical map. Archers will shoot, infantry & cavalry will charge straight ahead, and spellcasters will cast spells.

How come the losses aren't reported in the message window?
Maybe be there needs to be a different message for province defence unit battles!

Because PD losses don't matter unless you lose the province. Any "dead" PD is automatically replaced on your next turn. There's really no point to reporting it....

[Ranger]

How do you tell the difference between PD units and Regular units in the battle messages?

How do you know if it's Regular of PD units fighting in a battle?

Do PD units show up in a battle if you have regular units in a province?