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March 14th, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
Everything is biased.
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March 14th, 2007, 05:42 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
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Everything is biased.
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Very true because all news stations are trying for ratings, but on the scale it goes something like this:
No bias<-------------------------------------------------> Where's the truth
Fox News leaves that "where's the truth" line in the dust.
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March 14th, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
I could say the same about CNN, its a point of view. I'm not saying I support either, because I don't. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
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March 14th, 2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
They just wanted to say "naked" while not understanding anything about the meaning in context.
The nakedness of a black hole has absolutely nothing to to with the amount of gas around it, but everything to do with the event horizon.
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March 14th, 2007, 08:31 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
Do any of you believe that black holes are portals to another realms? I do not. I believe anything that enters a BH is crushed into nothingness.
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March 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
There is a difference between 'bias' in the sense of putting a spin on things that you like or don't like but still reporting them vs. making [censored] up to suit your political agenda. Fox does indeed literally lie to promote their chosen cause -- the Republican party. Most recent slimy tactics:
1) Before the 2006 elections they sneakily tried to make people think that Foley was a Democrat, and never acknowledged their subterfuge even when caught and called out.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3570
"INCREDIBLE! FOX 'NEWS' LABELS FOLEY AS DEM DURING O'REILLY FACTOR!"
http://wonkette.com/politics/pagefuc...res-205075.php
Desperate Times, Desperate Measures
2) Once the election was lost they desperately tried to show that the 'terrorists' were celebrating over the Democratic victory -- so desperate that a senior VP in the news division sent out a memo explicitly calling for his reporters to find such celebrations or anything that could be interpreted as such. And it was leaked.
http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/1...democrats-win/
Fox News memo: Look out for jihadis celebrating Democrats’ win
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ge...w_b_34251.html
Fox News: They Distort, We Deride
3) They simply made up a story that Obama had attended a radical Islamic school when he lived as a child in Indonesia. Other news agencies simply investigated -- sent someone to see the school he attended. It was an ordinary secular state-run school. No acknowledgement of this 'mistake' either. Just silence after exposure.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
CNN debunks false report about Obama
4) Oh, except that they then claimed that the story about Obama had come from Hilary Clinton's campaign staff. Blatantly trying to stir up strife within the Democratic party.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
CNN debunks false report about Obama
(Yes, same story debunks both claims)
And you still want to claim that Faux News is a news organization???
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March 14th, 2007, 08:57 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
Baron, they all lie. NBC has been caught and so has CBS, CNN, and ABC. ALL news organizations lie, they also make mistakes, and from time to time they have even made some huge *** whoopers and been called to carpet for them. Enough please. This is a free nation, if you don't like Fox, don't watch. Most of us are adult enough to make decisions for ourselves and are quite good at faretting out BS from fact. I myself won't watch NBC news at all. I prefer ABC and Fox, but mostly ABC.
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So what would happen if a Black hole, say a very small one about the size of a pin head, came into contact with our planet?
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March 14th, 2007, 09:18 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
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Baron, they all lie. NBC has been caught and so has CBS, CNN, and ABC. ALL news organizations lie, they also make mistakes, and from time to time they have even made some huge *** whoopers and been called to carpet for them. Enough please. This is a free nation, if you don't like Fox, don't watch. Most of us are adult enough to make decisions for ourselves and are quite good at faretting out BS from fact. I myself won't watch NBC news at all. I prefer ABC and Fox, but mostly ABC.
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This is true, but I think we severely disagree on the magnitude. In other words FOX goes above and beyond.
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So what would happen if a Black hole, say a very small one about the size of a pin head, came into contact with our planet?
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It wouldn't even get that close before the gravitation would mess everything up enough that all life would be dead.
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March 14th, 2007, 09:26 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
Just think, all we know about black holes is that we don't really know crap. In fact there is so much about the universe that we don't know that to even think we know the smallest fraction of what can be known is a horribly arrogant of us.
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March 14th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: OT: Study Reveals Flaw in Black-Hole Theory
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Baron, they all lie. NBC has been caught and so has CBS, CNN, and ABC. ALL news organizations lie, they also make mistakes, and from time to time they have even made some huge *** whoopers and been called to carpet for them. Enough please. This is a free nation, if you don't like Fox, don't watch. Most of us are adult enough to make decisions for ourselves and are quite good at faretting out BS from fact. I myself won't watch NBC news at all. I prefer ABC and Fox, but mostly ABC.
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So what would happen if a Black hole, say a very small one about the size of a pin head, came into contact with our planet?
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The difference is that when other news organizations are caught reporting falsehoods, they at least have the decency to put out corrections. Fox makes a habit of ignoring any mistakes in their reporting. In that, they act more like a propaganda machine than an institution with any journalistic integrity.
As for the black hole... that depends. Are you saying the size of a pin head is the size of the event horizon, or the volume containing all the mass? If the former, it would almost certainly evaporate due to Hawking radiation. If the latter, depends on the starting mass, but it probably would also evaporate.
If a black hole were somehow created on the surface of Earth, it wouldn't last long. If it was created on Earth, then by definition it would need to have a mass much less than that of Earth, and so it will have a gravitic pull much less than that of Earth. If it doesn't have the dominant force, it will not consume much mass, and will evaporate.
If the black hole came from outside the solar system, then depending on the mass, and how close it passes by, it could either knock us into a different orbit, or take out a chunk of the planet approximately the size of the event horizon. Then it would continue to bypass us and either get caught up in the sun or exit the solar system.
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