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January 9th, 2002, 08:33 PM
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Re: PBW network problems.
i probably would not still play SE4 if it was not for PBW. is the problem hardware, or with the database? if hardware, can parts / servers be replaced? if database, can it be restored from a backup and some game data lost?
I would gladly fork over $10/mo, which is about what most Online games cost, to play PBW. I think alot of other people would as well. if you think service charges would scare off players and spoil the community, i think the PBW gods would have good results if they took up a collection to purchase whatever hardware they need to fix the problem.
also, you might take the Last backup of the software and give it to MM to host on their hardware. I dont know why the heck i would buy SEIV-Gold if there is no PBW or other large, automated, easy-to-use system out there with a large base of players. i would guess there are alot of others that think the same way.
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January 9th, 2002, 09:14 PM
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Re: PBW network problems.
Allright. No more talk about charging a fee to play PBW. People are going to start thinking this little shutdown was not an accident.
Again, I am not sure what the problem is. The hardware all belongs to the Admiral. He has told me on numerous occasions that it's not a significant financial burden for him. We just have to be patient because it is a volunteer thing and his real life business concerns have to take priority of course.
It'll be back, and it will still be free. It just may take a few days. As far as whether or not any data will be lost, I have no idea. That kind of depends on what actually failed.
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January 9th, 2002, 09:17 PM
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Re: PBW network problems.
Here's an idea, and a plug for Shrapnel. Try out the demos that came on the SEIV disk. Steel Beasts is pretty cool. Or download the Runesword II demo. I've been playing that the Last few days. Quite fun.
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January 9th, 2002, 10:39 PM
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Re: PBW network problems.
quote: Originally posted by geoschmo:
Here's an idea, and a plug for Shrapnel. Try out the demos that came on the SEIV disk. Steel Beasts is pretty cool. Or download the Runesword II demo. I've been playing that the Last few days. Quite fun.
Geoschmo
everyone should checkout the demo for BCT, then read the featureset for the upcoming ATF, then go over to the ATF forum and tell all the military grognards there that we are real wargamers too, not just a bunch of silly space-gamers, and we would all shell out the cash for ATF in a second if they would finish it. not to rush them or anything, but man that game looks cool.
i played around a bit with Starships Unlimited, but I was let down. since MOO3 and Stars:SN are not out yet, im starting to get the shakes. i was trying to cut back on PBW, but now that its gone, i dont know what to do. what did i do before? i cant remember! I saw a java client for TradeWars:2002 somewhere.. but i dont want to get to know a new batch of internet gamers. I hardly remember how to play VGA Planets.. where do i go?
maybe i should try to finish Trade Empires. Darn that games hard.
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January 9th, 2002, 10:48 PM
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Re: PBW network problems.
The only reason SEIV is better - IMO - than other competing 4x games is because of PBW. The AI's are just way too easy to beat in any computer game. It would probably make sense especially for Malfador and Shrapnel et.al. to make it more robust so that stuff like this doesn't happen in the future. I know you guys are doing this on a volunteer basis, but I would second paying for the service if that meant not having to deal with breakdowns.
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January 10th, 2002, 12:50 AM
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Re: PBW network problems.
vapour sword is a +5 long sword from Dungons & Dragons.
I admit it was a poor attempt at humour 
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January 10th, 2002, 01:15 AM
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Re: PBW network problems.
You missed "Modding", AT  .
I've done more to SE4 than I have to Land of Devastation, and that game offered a C-like laguage and compiler rather than just text files.
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