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March 15th, 2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
You mean the BAT was not able to remove obstacles? even the BAT-M with the mobile crane? I read from your site (lousy Babelfish translation) that, in addition to tracklaying, it can be used for "clearing passages through obstructions" and "load-lifting". If for game purposes a civilian bulldozer can be considered to move dragon teeth out of the way, then why not a BAT?
Precision: a dragon tooth is not a mine, but a solid concrete obstacle designed to stop tanks (you see well how they look in the game). You just need a tracklaying blade and enough engine power to move them, or a crane to lift them away.
(Yeah, I know, wikipedia source, now don't tell me there's much controversy on that issue!)
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March 15th, 2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
BAT can clean obstacles.
BAT-1 not armoured.
BAT-2 on half armoured the sapper section also can transport.
Most likely in tactical to fight WinSPMBT (and in a reality) will work ahead armoured "IMR", instead of BAT.
BAT on the purpose more likely the rear machine.
It should clear away roads and to dig strengthenings.
But as in Russian OBAT catastrophically does not suffice slots, it will be better if to make one "IMR" instead of "DZM" since 1969 up to 2020.
P.S.: Why the USA can have armoured Engineer Vechicles, and the Soviet army should clear away obstacles under bombardment of the enemy on not armoured the bulldozer? 
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March 15th, 2007, 05:54 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
It seems to me that replacing the DZM with the IMR is a good idea. For some strange reason I was under the impression that it was some sort of BREM style vehicle on a T-80 chassis instead of an earthmover on a BMP-3 hull, but admittedly I never paid close attention to the picture. Besides how many DZMs are actually available? Not many I bet.
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March 15th, 2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
"IRM" is in the Polish army under the name "IWT"! 
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March 15th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
Like I said, it will all be fixed for the next patch ( it's all fixed now )
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March 15th, 2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
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Epoletov_SPR said:
"IRM" is in the Polish army under the name "IWT"!
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OK ,lets' look closely at this. The photo in the Russian OOB that was the "DZM " ( and is now IMR-2MA ) does not look at all like the photo ( or the Icon ) for the Polish iwt. The road wheels are different as is the postion of the boom. When I look up "IMR-2MA" Link
the photos I see do not look like either. Is the Photo in the Russian OOB now a "DZM" ?? That Polish vehicle looks like it's built on a T-55 Chassis from the position of the wheels
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March 15th, 2007, 08:09 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
In WinSPMBT modern model IMR.
Icon it is more similar from Polish "IWT".
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March 15th, 2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Russian Engineer Vechicles .
Take a look at this link...... LINK
The photo of the "DZM" in the current Russian OOB and the photo of the Polish IWT look nothing like the IMR ( well. maybe if you squint....)
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