OT: MOO3

[aegisx]

I shudder when I think about how awful the AI was when that game came out. I expected it to be on par with Moo2, but it was not even close.

[Yimboli]

@Raapys:

IIRC, Vanilla keeps the original intentions in tact while removing the game-killing bugs that were never patched. What additions in tropical do you find that warrant moving up from vanilla?

I still find myself requiring a moo3 fix. Pick up a game as cynoid and see how long until I'm at war with everyone and nearly overwhelmed... man I wish they hadn't abandoned moo3.

[Raapys]

You're right, Vanilla is just the bug fixes collection. Strawberry is the bug fixes and a set of cosmetic improvements( i.e. Gofur's UI, updated space combat effects, all text is updated and improved, etc. ). Tropical is the bug fixes, cosmetic improvements, and then a bunch of other changes, like a few new technologies, reorganized technology tree, AI autoconquer, etc.

So while Tropical contains some changes I don't like( i.e. the tech tree ), Strawberry is just a better-looking version of Vanilla, thus that's what I like to use.

I find myself using a customized Meklar most of the time. It's crazy how much you can boost research and manufacturing with race picks as them.

[Yimboli]

Oh now I remember, I actually do use Strawberry. But I didn't notice a huge difference with text or anything I expected with Gofur... so maybe I just installed it wrong haha

[Tim_Ward]

For a laugh, go and look at the documentation that comes with the unofficle patch. Especially funny; the AI speech is broken because the game was released with a misnamed text file... and they didn't fix that even though they patched it to version 1.2.5.

[Yimboli]

Tim_Ward said:
For a laugh, go and look at the documentation that comes with the unofficle patch. Especially funny; the AI speech is broken because the game was released with a misnamed text file... and they didn't fix that even though they patched it to version 1.2.5.

Yes I remember that, completely absurd.

[Wade]

I installed the Tropical recently. I did not even try to play again because the change list states "Race Selection (Ensures no duplicate races until all used at least once) - Bhruics Patcher ". There were still duplicate races while all were not used at least once. Also the texture on many panels was changed to some funky, annoing, attempt to look like stone marble. Many of the changes in these unofficial upgrade lists(Vanilla, Strawberry, Tropical at: http://www.moo3.at/mods/index.php?ac...aycat&catid=17 ) seem superficial or opinionated if really considered.

I re-installed Master of Orion III as Stock/Official only. I may try to play again in the future. The game is... alright. The official update version 1.2.5 resolved many issues but not all, of course. There are many bad aspects but also many good features that would be nice if seen in more games...maybe in future Space Empires?

Should we start a constructive list of the positive and negative features in Master of Orion III?

-Wade