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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: OT: Now for something a bit different...

They mentioned terrorists in one passing line, so clearly the whole thing is just a huge political statement about Iraq. Certainly not an actual attempt at a "fan" movie.

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Ahem... I find it difficult to think of it as a "fan" movie when it has a bunch of real actors in it (that were in ST no less!). Heh.
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Default Re: OT: Now for something a bit different...

It looked like that was all part of the mirror universe. I always thought that would make a great series.
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Old March 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: OT: Now for something a bit different...

I've been a big fan of the mirror universe.

As for the political commentary... it's possible.

Part of Star Trek's initial goal was to make social commentary, but it was very often indirect so I doubt it's blatantly targeted at our current situation.
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Old March 18th, 2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: OT: Now for something a bit different...

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Part of Star Trek's initial goal was to make social commentary, but it was very often indirect so I doubt it's blatantly targeted at our current situation.
But then they took it too far with Voyager. The preachiness! Oh, the preachiness! It was sickening at times. They should have stopped with DS9. DS9 was the business.
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Old March 18th, 2007, 07:04 AM
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I like Star Trek, despite my personal problems with its utopian depiction. I just take it as entertainment and pay no attention to the nonsense they try to teach you. The problem I guess is it is limited by its budget. They have no real choice but to depict aliens as they do despite the unrealism. I tend to go for the bad guys anyhow. Klingons, we're not interested in being friendly with aliens, we are trying to do what is best for us. The Dominion, how many times do we have to tell the Federation not to intrude in our space. We are peaceful explorers is not a valid excuse. The Borg, if all races are assimilated and made one they will no longer have conflict or make errors based on emotional responses rather than proper logic.

I much prefer the Mirror Universe, which is much closer to how I feel Terra should act, except of course enslaving aliens makes no sense when you could remove them as a threat for ever by destroying their homes.

I liked Voyager at times (my favourite episodes were Year of Hell) but I have to admit it was faulty from the start since the whole thing was based on a mistake. Why spend 7 years stranded when you could have gone home at the start and all it would have taken was to abandon a race which Voyager had no reason to care about in the first place.

by the way can anyone tell me if this fan film is mirror universe or not? I tried looking at the trailer but it stopped after about 20 seconds and I can't be bothered trying again.

ps. Best part of DS9: Getting the Romulans into the war. Finally some Realpolitics
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That was one advantage the Animated Series had; they could include decidedly non-humanoid aliens without breaking the bank.
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Default Re: OT: Now for something a bit different...

The Xindi insectoids (enough said about the xindi) were a nice effort, along with species 8472.

I was thinking just the other day it would be good if the reimagined film had stuff like the Andorians as real giant arctic insects, not humans with antenae. Not of course there's much chance of aliens being insects, though there's always the analog excuse.
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