Could u stop Gorgon?

[TirAsleen]

whats the purpose of this post? gorgon is much better or much more fun? in all cases i have to disagree...

its good vs low magic res troops. those spells you mentioned any SC can use but most of the time at reduced design point cost. good choices for Pangaea as SC are white and black bull as well. no need for items, they can healthemselves, like gorgon have trample and with personal regeneration cast and high dominion they are hp tanks. you can also try cast mistform, quickness, body ethereal and all these things as well, it will cost less. in direct combat vs high res units with high strenght and attack you'd better play these. 30hp is really too fragile for SC. as said, forge aegis shield and use it with a humanoid titan-like pretender with a lot more hp and cheaper magic paths and its the same as gorgon just better if you like powerplay so much.

[Nick_K]

I don't play MP so I couldn't say for sure, but I imagine that an SC designed to kill her could scrag the gorgon even in strong friendly dominion. Such an SC could easily fly into battle, so it would be difficult for her to avoid it.

Of course, if you really want to find out, try playing your gorgon in mp against the guys from this thread who are sure they could destroy her. That'd give an answer as to who's right!

[Xietor]

true that. I typically play Dom III with real life friends, though that does limit your exposure to new strategies.

How about the gorgon wearing the aegis, do potential killers have to pass a double petrification check before getting to attack?

To the question posed above, the original question is how you can kill a gorgon. And there have been some good suggestions.
That i like playing the gorgon is obvious. And I disagree that a titan is better or cheaper. Look at the titans available to MA Pangaea, and tell me which is better?

Petrification is available from the outset, not at const 8. poison resistance is the best resistance to have.

flying is also a must. Which titans fly? Which titans heal their own afflictions? Which ones have fear plus 5?

It is all a matter of preference. I laugh at the manual's suggestion of using an awake alchemist for Ulm. That is all well and good if you enjoy having a pretender whose main function is to hunt for gem sites. I personally do not enjoy playing that style. I like a pretender that can fight. And I like one that can fly to get to fights in a hurry. And there are items that can reduce an enemy's chance to resist petrification. And taking a magic scale also makes enemies less likely to resist petrification, as well as helping those expensive pans along with their research.

I also am a firm believer in having all your slots for items. the bull may have more hps, but he has 2 slots. End game if he goes trampling into high end troops and a row of mages, he is toast. The gorgon, with items, is a great caster. And there is no comparison between trample and petrification. One exhausts your pretender, one can kill 30 enemies and you take no fatigue.

[Wish]

i don't think thats how it works. as petrification shows up in the abilitys section (along with stealth and etc.) so once you have petrify, you have petrify.

Caelum has a bunch of flying titans. (and its real easy to get someone flying, with 3 magic items and 1 artifact that do so) not many heal their own afflictions though.

no one is arguing that petrification isn't a devastatingly powerful weapon. this is certainly true. perhaps the most powerful trait in the game, even ahead of blood vengeance. (I wish there was a unique creature with it for modding purposes, but alas.)

I agree an alchemist is a bad choice, but thats because I think the great sage is the only human pretender worth taking.

one SC bound to her own dominion is not going to win the game against someone who knows how to utilize the anti-sc aspects of the game.

[TirAsleen]

hehe and i like to kill SC's easy enough actually. rather have a powerful mage and site researcher, numbers can win in this game quite easily, just for the gorgon we make an exception and send some tough high res units.

btw, i think manticore or dragons alone can easy kill the gorgon as they fly too, with good res and are physically stronger. and there are other strong humanoid flyers as pretenders. for 1vs1 she isn't a good choice, whats left if their petrification doesn't work?

[Xietor]

What is left if petrification fails?

Her items, 7 of them, giving luck, etc. which the dragon will not have. her lightning helm. ember, regen/revig boots, astral shield. What 2 items will your dragon have?

And his breath attack will be useless, as the gorgon will be immune to poison, fire, and ice.

[TirAsleen]

check strenght of dragons and as a flyer he can reach you before having those items too.alteration let him cast enough buffs and he has not to worry you come close to him with these hp. recuperation is only really worth on high hp pretenders and units. does not matter much when you die in 2 hits, eh? btw, we can have a game with my other 2 friends any time if you wish, if you have time you can join there. while i think her petrification is kinda unbalanced vs most troops and especially indies, she is really toast against any physically strong high res unit, white/black bull, kraken alone high hp with powerful attacks and recuperation. and they can kill indies too without petrification and a lot of armies ,but thing is, they can kill that gorgon in some few seconds, except she is in her own dominion and manages to fly away. its not all that impressive. and strats based on forging weapons are not impressive either, in middle/late game you can a lot of other things too. like 6000 undead coming for you with summons to waste your dust to dust spells.

i was impressed by gorgon too and thought she is maybe best SC and horribly unbalanced and i wanted to ban her....until i saw whats happen if something big comes at her. so in a SC contest she is rather at a disadvantage with those hps.