Black heart

[Wish]

shoot you could just give her two bottles of living water and script her to hold. it'll take out most of the commanders she goes up against.

[Londo_Mollari]

...and for some RP, give a whip to your succubus

I tried a few assassins with summons+randged attack and it's quite fun and effective.

The last one i did was a Jotun scout+black heart+lifelong protection+Shroud of the battle Saint(E9/N9 bless) scripted to fire rearmost...

[Tyrant]

Not with Pangaea, but Spectres, Umbrals, and various heim stealth leaders. I hada Heliophagus with the Sword of Slaying Everthing Except Squid (aka Mage Bane) once, but he never got into action.

[mivayan]

Tyrant said:
Not with Pangaea, but Spectres, Umbrals, and various heim stealth leaders.

Vanherse assassins sound just... brutal.

[jutetrea]

I like the vamp count, hoburg priest (incin+quick), blood pans or pandemaniacs(?) for hellbind or even later charm. I've tried the fairy queen with that helm that does charm + quickboots (flyer with boot slot), but her morale just sucks so I only got to try her once

I play a very random old faerun, so there are a whole bunch of big nasties around. Half the fun of my current game is trying to hellbind the big nasties, then have the big nasties survive the combat. Only the strong survive! And very few Got a dracolich that way and 2 titans. I think I've wasted about 8 assassins trying to get the big demon lord that produces the militia. Going to try with a green eye+focus and see if it beats his MR. Not efficient at all, but fun fun.

[Taqwus]

Londo_Mollari said:
...and for some RP, give a whip to your succubus

I admit to once running a (single-player; not MP-suitable, I'd think) Succubus with the Tartarian Chains. Actually, one could use both a whip AND the chains, because they're all one-handed weapons, but a Luck Shield or Faithful is probably a better use of the second hand slot.

Boots of Stone are going to be less effective than the Wraith Crown's ethereal + longdead, against many things, and prevent use of Boots of Quickness, but are a lot cheaper. Barkskin Amulet is a cheaper alternative for protection, at the cost of a misc slot and a penalty to fire resist.

[Shovah32]

Never use two long weapons(the chains are long right?) as the attack reduction on most commanders is pretty big.