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March 26th, 2007, 10:00 AM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
I don't think Tigh's record as a Colonial warrior is inconsistant with him being a Cylon. It's been clearly established form the begining that there are human form cylons that don't know they are cylons. Six stated it pretty much in exactly those words during the original miniseries, and the point was proven with Boomer.
As to why the Cylons haven't been as hot to get the Chief's baby as they were Hera, it's also been pretty clearly established that the Cylons aren't some hive-mind like the Borg. They have a sense of each other, but it's not perfect. They are even capable of lying to each other. They may simply not know he has a child.
Plus, there might be some difference in having a half Cylon child with a human mother and one with a human father. Chief's baby may be nothing special as far as the Cylon's are concerned even if they knew about it.
I thought the finale was pretty good. I'm only pissed it's going to be next year before we find out what happens.
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March 26th, 2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
I know. It's all wargames. Everyone is a cylon. There are no such things as coloials, or if there are that's what the wargames are for, to deteremine likely tactics. It's like red team vs blue team only red team has had artifical memories placed in them to help them "play" their side better.
Perhaps the Human programmers have been following and watching in their cloaked lab ships
Edit: I wondered for a second about my hypothesis since a few of them have been back to Caprica but we know in the Base ships the Cylons see their own reality, that's why the inside is so bland. Those who went back to Caprica were just seeing an artificial reality.
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March 26th, 2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
Well, I need to go to work... but just wanted to post and say two things.
First... DAMN!
Second... well, did they ever refer to the thirteenth tribe of Kobol as a human tribe explicitly? It is apparent that the society that lived on Kobol was fairly advanced, and there was an exodus where the twelve tribes that formed the twelve colonies forgot most of their accomplishments from Kobol. What if one of those accomplishments was the creation of a thirteenth tribe (AKA, Cylons)? So, the final five could be considered the surviving models created on Kobol, and the toasters created in the twelve colonies were simply a re-discovery of what once was on Kobol, and these in turn spawned the other seven meat Cylons. The Cylons among the thirteenth tribe had long ago discovered the secret of reproduction that the seven colonial cylons are after, and had integrated themselves into Earth society... perhaps bringing along the Greek-ish culture of Kobol/Twelve Colonies?
Or maybe it's something completely different.
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March 26th, 2007, 12:56 PM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
Backwards... the humans are on earth. The 12 colonies were founded by the Kobol Cylons, who forgot they are Cylons and in turn are repeating the history of recreating Cylons and being destroyed by them.
"This has happened before" has been repeated in the series.
I think the "four" are not Cylons (new Cylons anyway)... I think the music and the Starbuck thing are part of a new player on the scene... possibly ancients from Kobol, or Kobol Cylons, or the real "final five", or dare I hope Iblis.
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March 26th, 2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
I don't know about anyone else but after last night's finale all I could think about was Lynche's "Twin Peaks" or something in the lines bizzare but beautifully interesting and WHAT!
I ran through dozens of scenerios of how in the world could a Bob Dylan tune possibly be in deep space alone (not all jarbled up with millions of other transmissions that have leaked into space) and a driving theme for four of the characters. So does this mean that when the Colonials finally arrive on Earth it will more in likely be post Bob Dylan era or will it pre Bob Dylan, and that Bob Dylan is actually a Cylon or an offworlder who writes all of his songs from lucid memories of being in space but forgetting that he actually was in space.
I was first thinking that with this series when the 13th tribe eventually landed on Earth it was pre-civilization times and that in order to erase their problem of the evils of technology the Colonials destroyed everything and started from scratch and eventually started the greek culture after a few hundred years.
How long ago again did the 13th Colony leave Cobol in the timeline?
Now I am convinced that when they (the fleeing Colonials) do find Earth it will definatly be modern times due to this Bob Dylan thing. This goes to my previous question of how long ago did the 13th Colony supposedly settle Earth.
The fact that there are now Cylons discovering that they are now Cylons I can live with, but this Bob Dylan thing is going to drive me nuts until I figure out how this plays into the series.
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March 26th, 2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
There is a spoiler interview with Moore at AICN http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32045
Sounds awfully close to jump the shark material to me.
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March 26th, 2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: OT: Season 3 BSG
I still think this is all some drug induced dream that Rosilin is having on her way back from the decommissioning ceremonies on Galatica. When she wakes up its all over man!
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