Suggestion: LE Ryleh - Dreamlands

[Nick_K]

Aren't the starspawn illithids immune to insanity? IIRC it's only the regular non-magical commander who gets affected.

[TirAsleen]

Starspawns are only resistent not immune to insanity.

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Scale Design:

Cause the freespawns cost "insane" amounts of upkeep over time as you will have some hundreds with more provinces and high dominion quite fast -getting over 1000 gold for upkeep in no time is easy- you cannot afford negativ scales.

You NEED order3, growth3(or they starve for sure), and no cold or heat scales like its possible in ma Rlyeh. You want your freespawns on land so they can attack most nations, with cold3 they would starve and you cannot effort the gold income hit as easily as with MA Ryleh. If those freespawns would not cost gold upkeep it would be possible to build more castles for supplies, though.

Removing upkeep for freespawns is required and a good thing, people.
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Whats bad on early age Ryleh? Afaik bankruptcy and the problem of starving is non-existend there.

[MaxWilson]

Quote: "You NEED order3, growth3(or they starve for sure), and no cold or heat scales like its possible in ma Rlyeh. You want your freespawns on land so they can attack most nations, with cold3 they would starve and you cannot effort the gold income hit as easily as with MA Ryleh. If those freespawns would not cost gold upkeep it would be possible to build more castles for supplies, though."

Out of curiosity, why not just let them starve? If you're worried about their upkeep, that is. If you're actually using them as chaff to throw at your opponents, they'll be dying fast enough that upkeep won't be as much of an issue.

Caveat: I've never yet played anything but EA.

-Max

[Sombre]

Because if they're getting spawned in huge numbers everywhere they'll also starve the mages and more important units in the province.

So you have to sweep them out every turn to avoid all your mages dying of disease. And that's a bit of a chore.

[MaxWilson]

Hmmm. When supplies are limited, aren't they allocated to more expensive units first? I haven't ever noticed my commanders starving, for example. In a quick test game with LA R'lyeh, I had 135 supply worth of units in a 75 supply swamp, and the diseased units were disproportionately cheap freespawn. Oddly enough, 3 or 4 of my 9 illithids were diseased and starving, too, after a couple of turns, but that might be because they're size 4. The larger, regenerating freespawn were still okay.

I agree that this is another reason you'd want a "disband units" command.

-Max

[Micah]

Max - Commanders don't suffer from starvation (or at least they get to eat first, I've never had enough commanders to exceed supply)

Starvation effects for units seem randomly distributed, although I'm not completely sure on this. I'm pretty certain that expensive units don't have complete priority though. I believe the reason your regenerating freespawn were all starvation free is because I'm pretty sure they don't eat (the lesser and greater othernesses, right? I think those are what you mean by the big regenerating ones)

[Sombre]

Yeah I tested and commanders don't starve, you're right. You still have problems with the lithids starving though.

I really think the underlying problem here is not the freespawn, but the lack of a dismiss button.