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Old April 1st, 2007, 08:59 PM

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Do items survive on a mage after death/ressurection from Phoenix Pyre?

If they do, try double Hearts of Life....
By the way, Hearts of Life still get used up if he's using Phoenix Pyre. I don't know whether they kick in before Phoenix Pyre or simultaneous to it, but they get used up well before he runs out of fatigue, so it's probably a waste of items.

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Old April 2nd, 2007, 04:50 AM
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Unfortunately, this little guy has a very low protection and defense values (1 and 11 respectively), extra help is needed to make him last longer in melee.

They get +6 def, strength, attack and movement in a heat-3 dominion. Which is massive, frankly.
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 08:41 AM
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They get +6 def, strength, attack and movement in a heat-3 dominion. Which is massive, frankly.
Thanks for pointing this out, I thought that heat scales in Abysia just affected the income/resources and also the magnitude of the "heat" ability.
This additional +6 bonus is truly amazing!! Defense 17, Strength 21 and Attack 22 (w/o bless)for the Anointeds it's a start at least...

Unfortunately I have seen that the heat-3 dominion bonuses don't apply to the remaining Abysian units/commanders in the same way:
- Burning Ones gain +3 bonuses instead of +6 bonuses
- Anathemant Dragons get no bonuses at all!!
- Even my Solar Disc pretender just benefit from a +1 in Strength and +6 in attack

What's going on? I can't see a clear pattern here!
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Abysians only get increased Heat in warm provinces. Lava Warriors of later ages, and Burning Ones of Early age, are special and gain increased benefits from the warmth. Anointed of Rhuax are anointed of Rhuax, and get double the normal bonus.

Getting temperature bonuses is very rare. Just remember to stay away from cold provinces, and beware the Alteration spell Wolven Winter... It's a two-edged sword, a curse as well as a blessing.
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Abysians only get increased Heat in warm provinces. Lava Warriors of later ages, and Burning Ones of Early age, are special and gain increased benefits from the warmth. Anointed of Rhuax are anointed of Rhuax, and get double the normal bonus.

Getting temperature bonuses is very rare. Just remember to stay away from cold provinces, and beware the Alteration spell Wolven Winter... It's a two-edged sword, a curse as well as a blessing.
Very good explanations Endoperez!!

Wow, I didn't realized Abysia's extreme heat dependance; cold/heat scales can make a difference between life and death for those lava beings!
Second Sun it's definitively a must and count on me for banning Wolven Winter!!

Due to Abysians natural heat tolerance, does Heat From Hell have a lesser impact on them?

Is there any formula how the "heat" ability from the Abysian units is modified according to heat/cold scales? Because I always read the same values!!
And how its damage works, is it AP?

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Manual has answers to the heat aura question. Heat increases the chance of making people catch fire, and perhaps the area the heat effect affects as well.

Read page 78 on rules for being in fire, page 57 for rules about heat, cold and poison auras.
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Due to Abysians natural heat tolerance, does Heat From Hell have a lesser impact on them?

Heat from Hell causes pure fire-based fatigue damage. That is, fire resistance/vulnerability applies in full.
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Unfortunately I have seen that the heat-3 dominion bonuses don't apply to the remaining Abysian units/commanders in the same way:
- Burning Ones gain +3 bonuses instead of +6 bonuses
- Anathemant Dragons get no bonuses at all!!
- Even my Solar Disc pretender just benefit from a +1 in Strength and +6 in attack

What's going on? I can't see a clear pattern here!
The Solar Disc pretender is probably getting bonuses from his dominion, not the heat scale. Disregarding that, it seems that Anointed get +2 to attack/defense/move/strength per heat scale, and Burning Ones get +1. Oddly enough, they don't get any bonus to Protection (like Caelian or Niefel ice armor).

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Default Re: Newbie Thought: Anointing The Rhuax

The strength bonus the solar disc is getting sounds like dominion but i dont think dominion grants extra attack, thats either from his extra fire magic, experience or the heat.
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Default Re: Newbie Thought: Anointing The Rhuax

You're right, the +6 attack bonus is granted by fire's indirect magic bonus (Page 85 on the manual). I wrongly thought that this bonus was linked with a heat-3 scale

No idea about the strength bonus, yet.
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