Gate Stone

[calmon]

Ok, i did my first tests.

First soulstone of the wolves is bugged in an equal matter. It seems to work in SP games like the Gate Stone but there are several problems in MP games.

First Test:
21 Human player MA game (all random nations)

Created Soulestone and Gate Stone with ermor (second nation in the list) and use it without problems.

Trade it to several nations (pythium, man, marignon, agartha, t'ien ch'i, abysia, vanheim, oceania). They all can't use the stones!

Trading back to ermor and it still works perfect for ermor.

Can't trade it to arco (first nation in the list) because arco died very early (maybe dominions kill).

Second Test:
21 Human player MA game. (all random nations)

Created Soulestone and Gate Stone with vanheim.

Vanheim can't use the stones. Trade it away to ermor. Ermor can't use it! Don't want to trade the stones to all nations so i did the next test.

Third Test:
21 Human player MA game.
This time C'tis selected as the first nation and ermor as the second, rest random.

Create it with ermor and it works, trade it to C'tis and it don't, trade it to arco (first in the list) and it don't work.


Well, i'm still not sure why it works sometimes and sometimes not. In my MP LA Marignon game the soulstone works fine but the Gate Stone not.

The only thing i'm nearly sure is that if it work: it works the whole game with several different commanders, if not: it works never whatever commander used.

More tests will follow.

[Edi]

calmon, besides kicking backside and taking names, you rock. This is the sort of stuff we need to get issues sorted out.

Bloody good work!

[calmon]

Bug found!

I were stupid not seeing it before. After some further tests i finally found the problem:

It all depends on your research!

If your nation researched 'Call of the Wild' (Conjuration 3) the Soulstone of the Wolves works perfect.

If your nation researched 'Astral Travel' (Thaumaturgy 9) the Gates Stone works perfect.

If not: It will not work!

I'm not sure there are other items with the same problem, maybe some further tests are needed.

However this should be in the bug list, i don't think its WAD that you've to research the spell before using it with an item.

[Edi]

That there thing is going into the shortlist right bloody now!

calmon, you wouldn't happen to want the position of Chief Bug Hunting Assistant?

[Hellboy]

calmon said:
Bug found!

Excellent work!

I were stupid not seeing it before. After some further tests i finally found the problem:

On the contrary!

It all depends on your research!

I would say that that this was not at all an obvious dependency. I mean, maybe it would be obvious if you knew the architecture, and had access to the source code it might be obvious, but from a black box testing point of view, I think this was quite an excellent catch.

I would also say that this is a fairly huge bug, and in all likelihood you've made Johan's job a whole lot easier by tracking down the bug so specifically. Anyhow, that's just my 2 cents, but again, outstanding job!

[Meglobob]

calmon said:
Bug found!

I were stupid not seeing it before. After some further tests i finally found the problem:

It all depends on your research!

If your nation researched 'Call of the Wild' (Conjuration 3) the Soulstone of the Wolves works perfect.

If your nation researched 'Astral Travel' (Thaumaturgy 9) the Gates Stone works perfect.

If not: It will not work!

I'm not sure there are other items with the same problem, maybe some further tests are needed.

However this should be in the bug list, i don't think its WAD that you've to research the spell before using it with an item.

Well done Calmon, at least we know how to use the thing now!

[Kristoffer O]

Strangely enough Astral WIndow from the stone sphere works regardless of research.

[Huzurdaddi]

Kristoffer O said:
Strangely enough Astral WIndow from the stone sphere works regardless of research.

Maybe Astral Window is a special case since there are sites which give the ability?